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Insider Info on the Upshaw Situation

Confirmed via multiple sources inside the program: Upshaw wasn't kicked for smoking weed. I never believed this story. Doesn't mean he wasn't smoking weed, so don't twist. But, several former players blazed with no consequences. Romar wouldn't kick a guy (especially a talented player) off the team just for that. Nothing wrong with a #FreshBowl after a long day of running on the court.

He was kicked for selling hard drugs. No joke.

Looks like the Notorious BIG was right: either you slangin crack rock, or you got a wicked jump shot. And we all know Upshaw has no jumpshot...

Romar's silence on the matter has two sides. First, he isn't gonna throw Upshaw under the bus, because I think he genuinely cares. On the other hand I think he wants to avoid another Overton situation where the bad publicity dominates the season. Especially since he can't hide the "scandal" behind a successful team this time around.

That'll be $10.95. Pay up.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    Makes sense. Kicking out for weed never passed the smell test.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    The thing I don't quite get is why he couldn't stop. Being a dealer =/= being an addict. Must have been some outside influence he felt compelled to follow more than his bball career. Kinda sad actually.
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    Selling 8 balls and grams when close to becoming a millionaire. Smart, real smart.

    No kidding. If true, that's beyond stupid. Romar has had a crack dealer and a pimp, total role model for sure.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,592 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    So the assumption is this was found out internally and not caught by the authorities?


    Really shortsighted move by Upshaw, but @ThomasFremont i don't think it had as much to do with outside influence as it did with him having a dealer mentality.

    I've been around my fair share of dealers and I think you're off to say being a dealer isn't addictive for some. Sure, we all knew that white guy with dreads down the dorm hall who is happy go lucky and hooks you up with a cheap bag of weed, but the guys who get into the hard game are complete different animals. It becomes about money and power and not looking like a bitch because if they do things go wrong.

    Rarely is a weed deal filled with paranoia, but 90% of the time you're getting blow there is an uneasiness in the air, even if it's your boy. Just a different personality type.

    Not saying Upshaw was trying to be a kingpin, but, if this is true, he definitely had that ambitious trait that makes the risk worth it.

    Honestly, I hope your inside source is legit freemont, because this is the kind of shit that will keep him out of the league. It's a huge accusation.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,592 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    Sorry for the TLDR, but in @ThomasFremont 's defense it's just as likely that some dealer from his hometown saw his success and basically fronted him some stuff with a "get me back when you make the league" attitude and Upshaw just kind of said "OK" and thought he could make a little side money giving the frat guys dime bags here and there.

    Word gets out, Romar catches wind, let's him go, end of another sad story of a young man getting dragged down by his past because he was too small to rise up.

    All speculation, but I shouldn't assume he was some insane menace packing heat on campus who couldn't stop pushing rocks. I hope this is more accurate, it's just shocking how many times a kid throws away millions for a "homie".
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    @Doogles is clearly the board's coke dealing superiority
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,998 Founders Club
    Doogles has the street scene wired

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  • RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Tequilla said:

    @Doogles is clearly the board's coke dealing superiority

    Which proves once again that everybody is good at something...
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,497 Founders Club
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,592 Founders Club
    I'm the whitest guy on the board. Live in Isla Vista 3 years then pop off.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,998 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    I'm the whitest guy on the board. Live in Isla Vista 3 years then pop off.

    Whiter than Huggy Bear?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Doogles said:

    So the assumption is this was found out internally and not caught by the authorities?


    Really shortsighted move by Upshaw, but @ThomasFremont i don't think it had as much to do with outside influence as it did with him having a dealer mentality.

    I've been around my fair share of dealers and I think you're off to say being a dealer isn't addictive for some. Sure, we all knew that white guy with dreads down the dorm hall who is happy go lucky and hooks you up with a cheap bag of weed, but the guys who get into the hard game are complete different animals. It becomes about money and power and not looking like a bitch because if they do things go wrong.

    Rarely is a weed deal filled with paranoia, but 90% of the time you're getting blow there is an uneasiness in the air, even if it's your boy. Just a different personality type.

    Not saying Upshaw was trying to be a kingpin, but, if this is true, he definitely had that ambitious trait that makes the risk worth it.

    Honestly, I hope your inside source is legit freemont, because this is the kind of shit that will keep him out of the league. It's a huge accusation.

    Obviously I can't 100% confirm this, since I didn't see it first hand. But I have two very different sources that told the same story. Both are as close to the program as you can get without being a player on the team. I have no reason to doubt their claim.

    I get what you are saying about the dealer mentality, especially the money involved. But making legit money playing ball is the ultimate way out of the game. I'm not gonna speculate too much on Upshaw's reasons/thinking, because I have no fucking clue. It's just a waste. Like I said before, kinda sad.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,278
    I heard from several sources that he was using jenkem
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,935 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    I'm not drug superiority guy, but a few times in my 20s I saw/interacted with the guys up the chain who provided us weed. They were scary Mexicans I didn't want to meet in an alley or see at the bar. Enough said on that.

    Anyway, if true, Romar didn't have a choice. You break the rules like that and you're gone. No warning, just gone.
  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Romar has given this kid every chance to succeed and he blew it. I'm quite sure there have been a few discussions on his actions prior to actual dismissal. This wasn't one of those Venoy moments where he hadn't done anything in his past so Romar gave him more leash(than he probably should have). Upshaw really should have gone to the NBA D-League after Fresno if he really is this stupid. While he may not have been lottery, his chances of 1st round were very close. 3 years of nba contract for some small time $$$ dealing is beyond stupid.

    If upshaw went sideways and romar found out, it's no surprise he went straight to the hook.
  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,442 Swaye's Wigwam
    True story, buddy of mine drives for Uber and picked up Upshaw at his dorm and drove him to the Ave at 1 in the morning. Got a picture with the guy as well. 2 weeks later: off the team.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    True story, buddy of mine drives for Uber and picked up Upshaw at his dorm and drove him to the Ave at 1 in the morning. Got a picture with the guy as well. 2 weeks later: off the team.

    It's about time you find your way over here, Hooligan! Although it looks like you've been here since summer. Poast moar!!111!ONE
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