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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2015
    Yeah at this points the odds of him returning are 0.
    Goss should stay and improve his jumper, right now he's a mid 2nd round pick at best
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,800
    NWG returns. No question.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Upshaw is going lottery and is the best big guy of the Romar era.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,453 Founders Club
    Draft express is your source?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    edited January 2015
    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
    FT % : Brockman = 61.2%, Upshaw = 44.2%...so, what's your point?
    FG% : Brockman = 53.4%, Upshaw = 50.6%...and Brockman took more outside shots that Upshaw doesn't even have in his arsenal. Again, what's your point?

    Brockman scored more points, and pulled down more rebounds (which are more valuable than a blocked shot). Upshaw is his prison bitch.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
    FT % : Brockman = 61.2%, Upshaw = 44.2%...so, what's your point?
    FG% : Brockman = 53.4%, Upshaw = 50.6%...and Brockman took more outside shots that Upshaw doesn't even have in his arsenal. Again, what's your point?

    Brockman scored more points, and pulled down more rebounds (which are more valuable than a blocked shot). Upshaw is his prison bitch.
    Just stop.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
    FT % : Brockman = 61.2%, Upshaw = 44.2%...so, what's your point?
    FG% : Brockman = 53.4%, Upshaw = 50.6%...and Brockman took more outside shots that Upshaw doesn't even have in his arsenal. Again, what's your point?

    Brockman scored more points, and pulled down more rebounds (which are more valuable than a blocked shot). Upshaw is his prison bitch.
    I was with you until this.

    W. JW.

  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Upshaw is getting 12 and 10 with 4.5 blocks since PAC 12 play began. He has more blocks alone than any other PAC 12 team. I love Brockman and I liked Hawes, but it's come on.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    dnc said:

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
    FT % : Brockman = 61.2%, Upshaw = 44.2%...so, what's your point?
    FG% : Brockman = 53.4%, Upshaw = 50.6%...and Brockman took more outside shots that Upshaw doesn't even have in his arsenal. Again, what's your point?

    Brockman scored more points, and pulled down more rebounds (which are more valuable than a blocked shot). Upshaw is his prison bitch.
    I was with you until this.

    W. JW.

    A defensive rebound is a stop, a sure thing. A block ends up in the stands or up in the air for a 50/50 jump ball more often than not.

    How is this even a debate?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    FREE PUB!!!

    I have always been much more critical of NWG than Upshaw. I maintain that I'd rather have Brockman, mostly because I don't give a fuck what these guys go on to do in the NBA. Brockman is a better college player.

    No he's not. Brockman is a better rebounder. That's it.
    Brockman is better at everything except for blocking shots. You can't even argue otherwise.
    Free throws. Brockman had a more advanced offensive game, but Upshaw is a much better finisher around the rim.

    And the shot blocking is a pretty big deal. Upshaw changes games defensively. Brockman was a pretty limited defender although he was a good team defender. I don't think it's even close to who is/was better.
    FT % : Brockman = 61.2%, Upshaw = 44.2%...so, what's your point?
    FG% : Brockman = 53.4%, Upshaw = 50.6%...and Brockman took more outside shots that Upshaw doesn't even have in his arsenal. Again, what's your point?

    Brockman scored more points, and pulled down more rebounds (which are more valuable than a blocked shot). Upshaw is his prison bitch.
    Just stop.
    Stop making shit up and I will.

    You are out of your fucking element here.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PLSS triple post, bitchez!
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited January 2015
    You were growing on me Fremont, but you've gone full fucktard in this thread.

    A rim protecting, shot altering 7 footer is more valuable than a 6'7" rebounder. Upshaw is averaging 10 boards himself in PAC 12 play and over 8 in 25 minutes for the season.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,885 Founders Club
    But do noses get broken when Upshaw plays? That's what I thought
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    You were growing on me Fremont, but you've gone full fucktard in this thread.

    A rim protecting, shot altering 7 footer is more valuable than a 6'7" rebounder. Upshaw is averaging 10 boards himself in PAC 12 play and over 8 in 25 minutes for the season.

    That 6'7" rebounder is also better at everything else EXCEPT for blocking shots.

    Fuck off with your 7 game sample size.

    When's your next date with Cyler?
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    You were growing on me Fremont, but you've gone full fucktard in this thread.

    A rim protecting, shot altering 7 footer is more valuable than a 6'7" rebounder. Upshaw is averaging 10 boards himself in PAC 12 play and over 8 in 25 minutes for the season.

    That 6'7" rebounder is also better at everything else EXCEPT for blocking shots.

    Fuck off with your 7 game sample size.

    When's your next date with Cyler?
    Upshaw is better. Easy call.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    You were growing on me Fremont, but you've gone full fucktard in this thread.

    A rim protecting, shot altering 7 footer is more valuable than a 6'7" rebounder. Upshaw is averaging 10 boards himself in PAC 12 play and over 8 in 25 minutes for the season.

    That 6'7" rebounder is also better at everything else EXCEPT for blocking shots.

    Fuck off with your 7 game sample size.

    When's your next date with Cyler?
    Upshaw is better. Easy call.
    Disagree.

    Check the facts.
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