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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    I wish it was smoother too. Some of the backlash is inevitable with a new coach, but I'm not sure it's a good thing. We'll find out.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    Dardanus said:

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    I agree with this. It's similar to why Arizona State is never a championship team - you always hear how easy it is to recruit to ASU because of the parties and girls, but that means you get a bunch of players who are more concerned about parties and girls than football. That can get you talent, but you need more to win big (a concept that Sark will never understand).
    See also, UCLA
  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    HuskyJW said:

    It's a loss but not a huge loss...I'm sure he was a nice kid but players like him are a dime a dozen.

    Rosters all across college football are littered with Kendyl Taylor's.

    WDWHA

    HuskyJW said:

    It's a loss but not a huge loss...I'm sure he was a nice kid but players like him are a dime a dozen.

    Rosters all across college football are littered with Kendyl Taylor's.

    WDWHA

    All rosters but ours dummy
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,237 Standard Supporter
    Good point and if we wanted a smooth transition, we should've hired Skippy Neuheisel back or taken a flier on Ron Zooook.

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    HFNY said:

    Good point and if we wanted a smooth transition, we should've hired Skippy Neuheisel back or taken a flier on Ron Zooook.

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    Why do you hate the fallback plan?

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  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    Smart move. A player looks better to scouts putting up big numbers at the FCS level than putting up pedestrian ones at the BCS level.

    And even if Miley was good, Taylor was still a 4th or 5th option. He wouldn't put up big numbers regardless of who was playing QB.
    Road we have to wide receivers coming back, that's it. Dont tell me he's our 4th-5th wr, he's the only who can go snatch a ball on 3rd and long and run after catch. Sheesh. We have double-zero depth at WR. Wait till next year and the following
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,237 Standard Supporter
    I mostly agree. Taylor would've at least been in the two deeps and if Mickens happens to go down for awhile in 2015, Taylor would've been a good replacement. Or he could've backed up Pettis even though Talyor is only 5'10".

    Big WR: Lenius, Renfro

    Regular WR: Pettis, ???

    Slot: Mickens, Hall as back-up? Maybe McClatcher now?

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    Smart move. A player looks better to scouts putting up big numbers at the FCS level than putting up pedestrian ones at the BCS level.

    And even if Miley was good, Taylor was still a 4th or 5th option. He wouldn't put up big numbers regardless of who was playing QB.
    Road we have to wide receivers coming back, that's it. Dont tell me he's our 4th-5th wr, he's the only who can go snatch a ball on 3rd and long and run after catch. Sheesh. We have double-zero depth at WR. Wait till next year and the following
  • ScroteDawgScroteDawg Member Posts: 238
    HFNY said:

    I mostly agree. Taylor would've at least been in the two deeps and if Mickens happens to go down for awhile in 2015, Taylor would've been a good replacement. Or he could've backed up Pettis even though Talyor is only 5'10".

    Big WR: Lenius, Renfro

    Regular WR: Pettis, ???

    Slot: Mickens, Hall as back-up? Maybe McClatcher now?

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    Smart move. A player looks better to scouts putting up big numbers at the FCS level than putting up pedestrian ones at the BCS level.

    And even if Miley was good, Taylor was still a 4th or 5th option. He wouldn't put up big numbers regardless of who was playing QB.
    Road we have to wide receivers coming back, that's it. Dont tell me he's our 4th-5th wr, he's the only who can go snatch a ball on 3rd and long and run after catch. Sheesh. We have double-zero depth at WR. Wait till next year and the following
    Clearly, Miley needs to be moved to WR for depth purposes.
  • LaZorisLaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    How bout Ross puts on some weight this offseason and watching game film of DAT faggot from oregon who seemed to play pretty well on offense...
  • ScroteDawgScroteDawg Member Posts: 238




    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    I wish it was smoother too. Some of the backlash is inevitable with a new coach, but I'm not sure it's a good thing. We'll find out.
    It's an interesting topic, managing football culture overhauls.

    I think a different twist with UWs overhaul, compared to Texas, is the players at UW probably feel they improved the program and don't need to buy into CPs change. We all would disagree there, but these are dumb jocks, after all.

    The Texas players (or Michigan next year) couldn't possibly be under any delusion that they didn't need to buy into Strong's change, because they sucked so bad it got their coach fired. That probably helps with buy-in. UW players didn't get their coach fired, they got him a better job...so why do they need to buy into Cps way when what they were doing worked so well.
    Good poont. That's exactly why I don't give a shit if Petersen runs all those pussies.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954

    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    Can't be much more dialed in than this.

    The reality is that if you want to be good ... and I don't care what it is in ... you have to bust your ass and make some sacrifices to get there. It's easy to not like the people that bust your ass and make you do things you don't want to do. You also hear countless times people that say "I hated so and so when he was busting my ass but I wouldn't be the person I am today without what they did for me."

    As was mentioned the other day by Bananas, we haven't seen a single decommit from any player in this class and most likely won't before signing day. Everybody knows what they are signing up for. These issues will work themselves out over time. Short term pains for long term gains.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954




    Alexis said:

    Gonna drop some insider knowledge. I knew it weeks ago, but couldn't poast here.

    Just talked to one of Kendyl's family friends. Says KT (I call him that, means we tight) didn't like Pete. Says alot of the team doesn't like Pete. I pointed out it seemed like Danny Shelton seemed to like Pete. Was told Danny Shelton ain't no Steve Empterman (told this by an ex player no less)

    I said it seemed like alot of Sark guys were pussies and Pete was too tough for them. There really wasn't a response to that. Kendyl seemed like a nice enough kid, and knew the only way he was going to get to the "league" (that's what we call the NFL) was to get 100 catches and that wasn't going to happen here. So NAU, and 100 catches, here they come.

    So yeah, in a way, Miley chased him away. If Miley would have gotten him the ball 100 times, he'd still be here.

    It's really not surprising to hear some of the players don't like Peterman. Honestly, he is pretty much 180 degrees from the coach that recruited these guys. He focuses on details, academics matter and football has to be the most important thing in the world for you all at once.

    Peterman has said it as often as he possibly can, that this is not an easy process for players. One of the reasons he tells this to recruits and is straight up with them is so that when they come in they aren't freaked the hell out, like some of the current players are that he did not get a chance to recruit.

    I wish it could have been a smoother transition, but this is exactly what happens when a leader comes in with a different mindset. It's also proof of one of the many reasons this season was such a cluster fuck on the field.
    I wish it was smoother too. Some of the backlash is inevitable with a new coach, but I'm not sure it's a good thing. We'll find out.
    It's an interesting topic, managing football culture overhauls.

    I think a different twist with UWs overhaul, compared to Texas, is the players at UW probably feel they improved the program and don't need to buy into CPs change. We all would disagree there, but these are dumb jocks, after all.

    The Texas players (or Michigan next year) couldn't possibly be under any delusion that they didn't need to buy into Strong's change, because they sucked so bad it got their coach fired. That probably helps with buy-in. UW players didn't get their coach fired, they got him a better job...so why do they need to buy into Cps way when what they were doing worked so well.
    Very good points.

    Harder to change when you feel like you're on the right track (even if you aren't).
  • steelheader2steelheader2 Member Posts: 372
    Taylor isn't a big loss Puppy. McClatcher can step right in to fill his spot either in slot or outside. More likely slot. Don't sleep on Quinton Pounds either as I think he may end up being wr. Long strides, taller.
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