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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    dnc said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
    You've been hating facts all over this thread. I'm glad you think beating Maryland somehow proves Stanford is a good team though.
    UCLA beat Arizona. Will finish the year ranked higher when they win tonight. They also played a much tougher non conference schedule. In fact, there schedule was rated right at the top for toughest in the country.

    You will say it's all hypothetical, but Arizona skipped Stanford and Oregon State. UCLA skipped WSU and Oregon State. Switch schedules and UCLA wins the South.

    I get that it's college football and there is no true right answer, but it's not hard to see Arizona is not the 2nd best team.

    If you insist on only using facts, Arizona is not going to end the year ranked as the 2nd best team in the PAC 12.
    Arizona beat Oregon and UCLA lost to Oregon. That's why Arizona won the South. Somehow beating the best team in the conference gets you no respect among Doog Nation.

    When we last saw UCLA, they got plungered by Stanford 31-10 at home. Tell me again how UCLA is better than Stanford.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=400548317

    Wow, just wow. UCLA beat Arizona. Rather easily. The last time we saw Zona they were plungered by Oregon and lost to a MWC team. But the bowl season doesn't matter. All that matters is that Arizona (very luckily, but enough hypotheticals) went 7-2 in conference while the other teams went 6-3. Bowl season and head to head doesn't matter according to you.
    Head to head:
    UCLA beat Arizona and lost to Stanford.
    In the NFL, Arizona wins the tiebreaker between the three teams by better conference record since all three teams didn't play each other.

    If UCLA was so much better than Arizona, how come they lost three conference games?

    Thanks for teaching me that 6-3 = 5-4 > 7-2 though. That was an awesome math lesson.

    The fact that the second best team in the Pac-12 standings lost to a MWC team proves that the conference sucks though. At least we agree on that
    Because UCLA played Stanford, while Arizona played the Coogs

    HTH
    Stanford fucking sucks. If you couldn't beat them at home this year, you don't deserve the division title.

    Both teams played Oregon. Why do we keep ignoring that detail?
    Why do you ignore the detail UCLA beat Az and Stanford never played Az?
    Because he's fucking stupid and needs something to help him feel better about his SEC shitting the bed. It's why he has to resort to having pride about being the most annoying fucktard on the web.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    And while we're at it, why isn't USC better than Stanford? USC beat Stanford and had a better OOC schedule after all.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    I didn't even mention Stanford. I'm using facts with UCLA, yet you insist on Arizona being 2nd best. The only thing said about Stanford was that Arizona's conference and non conference schedules were easier than Arizona's.

    BallSacked also said Stanford would plunger Arizona if they played tomorrow. I agree and it's obvious, but there have been enough hypotheticals.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    Arkansas beat Texas worse than UCLA and it was at the end of the season when Texas was really improved and playing better.

    So Arkansas is better than UCLA and the second best Pac 12 team

    Pretty sure we said that awhile ago
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    dnc said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
    You've been hating facts all over this thread. I'm glad you think beating Maryland somehow proves Stanford is a good team though.
    UCLA beat Arizona. Will finish the year ranked higher when they win tonight. They also played a much tougher non conference schedule. In fact, there schedule was rated right at the top for toughest in the country.

    You will say it's all hypothetical, but Arizona skipped Stanford and Oregon State. UCLA skipped WSU and Oregon State. Switch schedules and UCLA wins the South.

    I get that it's college football and there is no true right answer, but it's not hard to see Arizona is not the 2nd best team.

    If you insist on only using facts, Arizona is not going to end the year ranked as the 2nd best team in the PAC 12.
    Arizona beat Oregon and UCLA lost to Oregon. That's why Arizona won the South. Somehow beating the best team in the conference gets you no respect among Doog Nation.

    When we last saw UCLA, they got plungered by Stanford 31-10 at home. Tell me again how UCLA is better than Stanford.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=400548317

    Wow, just wow. UCLA beat Arizona. Rather easily. The last time we saw Zona they were plungered by Oregon and lost to a MWC team. But the bowl season doesn't matter. All that matters is that Arizona (very luckily, but enough hypotheticals) went 7-2 in conference while the other teams went 6-3. Bowl season and head to head doesn't matter according to you.
    Head to head:
    UCLA beat Arizona and lost to Stanford.
    In the NFL, Arizona wins the tiebreaker between the three teams by better conference record since all three teams didn't play each other.

    If UCLA was so much better than Arizona, how come they lost three conference games?

    Thanks for teaching me that 6-3 = 5-4 > 7-2 though. That was an awesome math lesson.

    The fact that the second best team in the Pac-12 standings lost to a MWC team proves that the conference sucks though. At least we agree on that
    Because UCLA played Stanford, while Arizona played the Coogs

    HTH
    Stanford fucking sucks. If you couldn't beat them at home this year, you don't deserve the division title.

    Both teams played Oregon. Why do we keep ignoring that detail?
    Why do you ignore the detail UCLA beat Az and Stanford never played Az?
    Because he's fucking stupid and needs something to help him feel better about his SEC shitting the bed. It's why he has to resort to having pride about being the most annoying fucktard on the web.
    USC beat Stanford, so they are better than Arizona and UCLA, right?

    I'm still trying to figure out who you guys think the second best team in the Pac-12 is as your arguments keep changing after I blow them up with actual facts.
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    I didn't even mention Stanford. I'm using facts with UCLA, yet you insist on Arizona being 2nd best. The only thing said about Stanford was that Arizona's conference and non conference schedules were easier than Arizona's.

    BallSacked also said Stanford would plunger Arizona if they played tomorrow. I agree and it's obvious, but there have been enough hypotheticals.
    So you're saying Stanford is better than UCLA and Arizona RIGHT NOW.

    Pick a fucking team and stick with them.
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    Arkansas beat Texas worse than UCLA and it was at the end of the season when Texas was really improved and playing better.

    So Arkansas is better than UCLA and the second best Pac 12 team

    Pretty sure we said that awhile ago

    Arkansas would beat UCLA with Jerry Neuheisel playing QB. Agree 100%.

    Good job Race, fag.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    I agree with this, but we could play this game with every conference. Clearly Arkansas would move up in the SEC hierarchy if there were more games to play.

    On the entire body of work we have right now, Arizona was the second best team in the conference. If UCLA looks really good tonight I will probably revise that opinion. But Arizona is either second best by a bit or behind second best by a bit. Either way, the second best team in the Pac wasn't impressive this year.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Arkansas beat Texas worse than UCLA and it was at the end of the season when Texas was really improved and playing better.

    So Arkansas is better than UCLA and the second best Pac 12 team

    Pretty sure we said that awhile ago

    Arkansas would beat UCLA with Jerry Neuheisel playing QB. Agree 100%.

    Good job Race, fag.
    Jerry >>> Brett.



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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    So you think beating Cal, UCLA, and Maryland proves Stanford is the second best team in the Pac-12 right now.

    You hate the Pac-12 more than I do.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    So you think beating Cal, UCLA, and Maryland proves Stanford is the second best team in the Pac-12 right now.

    You hate the Pac-12 more than I do.
    That's what my eyes are telling me. They also told me that the Mississippi's were frauds, LSU sucked, and Alabama was down.

    Considering you thought, the SEC had 3 of the 4 best teams, I'd say your eyes are worse than @GrandpaSankey's.... Before he could see.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    dnc said:

    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    I agree with this, but we could play this game with every conference. Clearly Arkansas would move up in the SEC hierarchy if there were more games to play.

    On the entire body of work we have right now, Arizona was the second best team in the conference. If UCLA looks really good tonight I will probably revise that opinion. But Arizona is either second best by a bit or behind second best by a bit. Either way, the second best team in the Pac wasn't impressive this year.
    The second best team in every conference wasn't that impressive if you take their entire body of work. Especially in the SEC whose top teams lost to:
    *A third string QB
    *Barry Fucking Alvarez
    *An offense from WWI era
    *ND coming off a four game plunger fest by the pac12.

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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    I agree with this, but we could play this game with every conference. Clearly Arkansas would move up in the SEC hierarchy if there were more games to play.

    On the entire body of work we have right now, Arizona was the second best team in the conference. If UCLA looks really good tonight I will probably revise that opinion. But Arizona is either second best by a bit or behind second best by a bit. Either way, the second best team in the Pac wasn't impressive this year.
    The second best team in every conference wasn't that impressive if you take their entire body of work. Especially in the SEC whose top teams lost to:
    *A third string QB
    *Barry Fucking Alvarez
    *An offense from WWI era
    *ND coming off a four game plunger fest by the pac12.

    Why do you hate TequillaCU?

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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    By the way, since you guys clearly think Stanford is better than Arizona and UCLA, stick to the argument that Stanford is the second best team in the conference.

    5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2

    Right now I think Stanford is the best team. Az had the best season. They had the best season because they missed Stanford, because @TheChart‌ is a fucktard, and because @SonnyDykes‌ Hail Mary D is fucktarded.

    But if Stanford played AZ today, the trees would beat AZ like the entire Cosby family gang plunger raping Janice Dickinson.
    So you think beating Cal, UCLA, and Maryland proves Stanford is the second best team in the Pac-12 right now.

    You hate the Pac-12 more than I do.
    That's what my eyes are telling me. They also told me that the Mississippi's were frauds, LSU sucked, and Alabama was down.

    Considering you thought, the SEC had 3 of the 4 best teams, I'd say your eyes are worse than @GrandpaSankey's.... Before he could see.
    I was proven wrong about the SEC by facts and I acknowledged it accordingly.

    If you think a team that has beaten three teams with winning records this season (UW, UCLA, Maryland) is the second best team in the Pac-12, your hatred of the conference impresses me and I salute it.

    Thanks for finally picking a team and for teaching me that 5-4 > 6-3 > 7-2.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    If we are going by the best 2nd best team, the Big 10 wins. And we all know the Big 10 sucks.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    If we are going by the best 2nd best team, the Big 10 wins. And we all know the Big 10 sucks.

    Bingo. EVERYONE sucks.

    That's been my point for a whole day here. Sorry I couldn't make it clearer even though I said it that way 206 times.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    If we are going by the best 2nd best team, the Big 10 wins. And we all know the Big 10 sucks.

    Not using the Bowl criteria

    Ohio State will lift some boats, on a more serious note. And Harbaugh

    Change is the only constant
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