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By your logic, Arizona is the 2nd best PAC 12 team. So is Wisconsin the Big 10's 2nd best? Missouri in the SEC? Was UCLA better than Oregon in 2012? How about ASU in 2013?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,420
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    I actually think Missouri is second best by default if nothing else. Wisconsin and Michigan State are clearly the second best in the B1G.

    Arizona has a clear logical on the field claim to second in the PAC. Not sure why that is so difficult to accept.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,528
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    Georgia was 2nd best in the SEC.

    Free Gurley!
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,475
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    Don't bother, he has his facts and us Doogs hate them.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,083
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    RaceBannon said:

    I actually think Missouri is second best by default if nothing else. Wisconsin and Michigan State are clearly the second best in the B1G.

    Arizona has a clear logical on the field claim to second in the PAC. Not sure why that is so difficult to accept.

    They beat Oregon for sure, but they were gifted wins by Cal and us (sorry Damone)
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,475
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    DerekJohnson said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I actually think Missouri is second best by default if nothing else. Wisconsin and Michigan State are clearly the second best in the B1G.

    Arizona has a clear logical on the field claim to second in the PAC. Not sure why that is so difficult to accept.

    They beat Oregon for sure, but they were gifted wins by Cal and us (sorry Damone)
    Why do you hate UTSA??
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,420
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    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,420
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    I think I was quite clear as to why I am sticking with it. I don't insist that everyone agrees. They can be wrong. It's cool.

    I'd say it if Arizona had won.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    Such a fag Bannon
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    By your logic, Arizona is the 2nd best PAC 12 team. So is Wisconsin the Big 10's 2nd best? Missouri in the SEC? Was UCLA better than Oregon in 2012? How about ASU in 2013?

    Arizona isn't the second best team because it won the South. Arizona is the second best team because it won the South AND because every but Oregon in the North is clearly worse than Arizona.

    If you somehow want to say that wins over UW, UCLA, and Maryland somehow make Stanford the second best team in the conference, you hate the Pac-12 more than I do.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    It appears that there are a lot of Sark clones on this bored who think that almost winning games means more than actually winning games.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,420
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    So what happens on the field matters?
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
    You've been hating facts all over this thread. I'm glad you think beating Maryland somehow proves Stanford is a good team though.
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
    You've been hating facts all over this thread. I'm glad you think beating Maryland somehow proves Stanford is a good team though.
    Stanford was shit early in the year and lost games. Now they look like the 2nd best team in the Pac12

    Arkansas was shit early in the year and lost games. Now they look like the 2nd(?) best team in the SEC

    Beating Maryland is not a big fucking deal, neither is beating Texas. Both those teams seasons were really similar.
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,475
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    It's this FS logic that prevented Carroll's SC from ass fucking the SEC. Great teams get better as the season progresses, that's when the best football is played by the most cohesive units.

    Zona is not the second best team in the Pac, fuck your records. Don James sucked as head coach until january 1992 too.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    BallSacked said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You can do that for every team. That's why I'll stick with what actually happened

    You will stick with it because you need to hang onto anything to continue the PAC 12 sucks mantra.
    Record against Pac12 teams? Arizona was second best.
    National ranking? Arizona was second best.
    Placement in conference bowel hierarchy? Arizona was second best.

    Arizona was the second best team in the conference by every possible metric. This isn't some statistical fluke or relic of being in a worse division. They were the second best Pac12 team this year.
    If you can't dig a little deeper to see they weren't the 2nd best team, I can't help you. They won't end up ranked 2nd best. I was unaware bowl games don't count. There are five Pac 12 teams ranked 10-25, including two Arizona lost against.

    Missouri made the SEC title game, therefore they are better than Georgia, even though Georgia beat them 34-0 in Missouri.
    Arizona got a much tougher opponent than USC and Stanford did, but Doogs hate facts.
    I didn't know you considered yourself a doog?
    You've been hating facts all over this thread. I'm glad you think beating Maryland somehow proves Stanford is a good team though.
    Stanford was shit early in the year and lost games. Now they look like the 2nd best team in the Pac12

    Arkansas was shit early in the year and lost games. Now they look like the 2nd(?) best team in the SEC

    Beating Maryland is not a big fucking deal, neither is beating Texas. Both those teams seasons were really similar.
    So you're saying the Pac-12 season started on November 22nd?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/24/stanford-cardinal

    Even then, I'd take Arizona's wins over Utah and Arizona State during that time frame ahead of Stanford's wins over Cal, UCLA, and Maryland.

    Judging teams by selective time periods of a season instead of the entire season is fucktarded Doog logic at its best.
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