Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
During out of conference and bowl games, the SEC's best win is either Georgia over Louisville in the bowl game or LSU over Wisconsin (same one who lost 59-0 two weeks ago). Maybe Missouri over Minnesota can be mentioned too. The SEC beat nobody.
Every single conference has better out of conference and/or Bowl wins.
Pac 12- Michigan State, Florida State Big 10- Alabama, Baylor Big 12- Ole Miss ACC- Georgia, Ohio State
I'm missing many more and not putting mediocre teams like Notre Dame on there.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
fuck, don't explain it. every fucking body knows that teams look like shit at some point in the season. and conference play is weird and unpredictable. that's where 80% of the upsets happen, except those who follow any particular conference are never half as surprised as the outsiders are.
it's just the fucking way it is. that's how a 3-8 USC team played Washington close for 50 minutes in 1991. just the nature of conference play. it's how a shit BC team almost beat the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, who needed a true fucking miracle to pull that game out of their asses.
Oregon may not be an all-time great team, but the Pac 12 is no more "Down" this year than it was in 1991 or 1984 or 2000. Give me a fucking break.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
fuck, don't explain it. every fucking body knows that teams look like shit at some point in the season. and conference play is weird and unpredictable. that's where 80% of the upsets happen, except those who follow any particular conference are never half as surprised as the outsiders are.
it's just the fucking way it is. that's how a 3-8 USC team played Washington close for 50 minutes in 1991. just the nature of conference play. it's how a shit BC team almost beat the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, who needed a true fucking miracle to pull that game out of their asses.
Oregon may not be an all-time great team, but the Pac 12 is no more "Down" this year than it was in 1991 or 1984 or 2000. Give me a fucking break.
Now you're getting it.
The SEC finally looked like shit during bowl season.
Welcome to the club.
By the way, the 2014 Pac-12 couldn't hold the 2000 Pac-10's jockstrap.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
Football happens in spurts. Teams play well for stretches, then shitty. Some teams get better, some get worse. I agree that Stanford sucked for some of the year, but they plungered Cal, UCLA, and Maryland the last three games. They have had a good defense all year and the offense has gotten much better. Stanford would likely beat Arizona rather easily if they played now. I would bet money on Stanford beating either Mississippi, Auburn, or LSU. Arkansas is maybe the 2nd best SEC West team at the moment despite going 2-6.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
Football happens in spurts. Teams play well for stretches, then shitty. Some teams get better, some get worse. I agree that Stanford sucked for some of the year, but they plungered Cal, UCLA, and Maryland the last three games. They have had a good defense all year and the offense has gotten much better. Stanford would likely beat Arizona rather easily if they played now. I would bet money on Stanford beating either Mississippi, Auburn, or LSU. Arkansas is maybe the 2nd best SEC West team at the moment despite going 2-6.
CHRIST. Cal and Maryland are part of your argument?
I did upvote you for realizing that Arkansas is better than Stanford though.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
Arizona won their division. Stanford lost three games to the Pac-12 South, so they're worse than Arizona too.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
Football happens in spurts. Teams play well for stretches, then shitty. Some teams get better, some get worse. I agree that Stanford sucked for some of the year, but they plungered Cal, UCLA, and Maryland the last three games. They have had a good defense all year and the offense has gotten much better. Stanford would likely beat Arizona rather easily if they played now. I would bet money on Stanford beating either Mississippi, Auburn, or LSU. Arkansas is maybe the 2nd best SEC West team at the moment despite going 2-6.
CHRIST. Cal and Maryland are part of your argument?
I did upvote you for realizing that Arkansas is better than Stanford though.
Cal and Maryland suck, but they were plungered. Arkansas is not better than Stanford. That is really fucking stupid and there is no basis behind that other than advanced metrics that obviously overrated the SEC West.
Stanford: 8-5, 5-4 Arkansas: 7-6, 2-6
Stanford: +39 in conference Arkansas: -12 in conference
That 2-6 is looking pretty fucking bad now after bowl season.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
fuck, don't explain it. every fucking body knows that teams look like shit at some point in the season. and conference play is weird and unpredictable. that's where 80% of the upsets happen, except those who follow any particular conference are never half as surprised as the outsiders are.
it's just the fucking way it is. that's how a 3-8 USC team played Washington close for 50 minutes in 1991. just the nature of conference play. it's how a shit BC team almost beat the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, who needed a true fucking miracle to pull that game out of their asses.
Oregon may not be an all-time great team, but the Pac 12 is no more "Down" this year than it was in 1991 or 1984 or 2000. Give me a fucking break.
Now you're getting it.
The SEC finally looked like shit during bowl season.
Welcome to the club.
By the way, the 2014 Pac-12 couldn't hold the 2000 Pac-10's jockstrap.
hmm. maybe 2000 was a better year. although USC was down, and that automatically makes the conference suspect. right?
i'll just say it: this year's Oregon team would thunder fuck 2000 Washington. the 2 Oregon teams, including the historic anomaly of the 2000 Beavs, probably tip the scales, but the rest is close to a wash.
I don't think your jock comments hold up to the comparison.
During out of conference and bowl games, the SEC's best win is either Georgia over Louisville in the bowl game or LSU over Wisconsin (same one who lost 59-0 two weeks ago). Maybe Missouri over Minnesota can be mentioned too. The SEC beat nobody.
Every single conference has better out of conference and/or Bowl wins.
Pac 12- Michigan State, Florida State Big 10- Alabama, Baylor Big 12- Ole Miss ACC- Georgia, Ohio State
I'm missing many more and not putting mediocre teams like Notre Dame on there.
Good point. I'd put Allbarn over K State as a rare SEC out of south true road game up there as well. I took plenty of shit for that...as well as using the Coogit moral victory over Allbarn last yr.
Conferences aren't usually judged by divisions. BSPN started doing it when the Miss. schools weren't their normal pile of garbage, and we also heard how Arkie was almost a great team who just needed to shake a 347 gayme SEC losing streak.
This. The whole division thing started as a spin device to keep the rest of the college football world in awe of the SEC. Best conference top to bottom is probably the pac/acc depending on how the rest of bowl season shakes out.
Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Boise State is better than 11 of the 12 teams in the Pac-12.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona to the Pac is Missouri to the SEC. Everyone knows Arizona sucks and had an extremely lucky season.
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
fuck, don't explain it. every fucking body knows that teams look like shit at some point in the season. and conference play is weird and unpredictable. that's where 80% of the upsets happen, except those who follow any particular conference are never half as surprised as the outsiders are.
it's just the fucking way it is. that's how a 3-8 USC team played Washington close for 50 minutes in 1991. just the nature of conference play. it's how a shit BC team almost beat the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, who needed a true fucking miracle to pull that game out of their asses.
Oregon may not be an all-time great team, but the Pac 12 is no more "Down" this year than it was in 1991 or 1984 or 2000. Give me a fucking break.
Now you're getting it.
The SEC finally looked like shit during bowl season.
Welcome to the club.
By the way, the 2014 Pac-12 couldn't hold the 2000 Pac-10's jockstrap.
hmm. maybe 2000 was a better year. although USC was down, and that automatically makes the conference suspect. right?
i'll just say it: this year's Oregon team would thunder fuck 2000 Washington. the 2 Oregon teams, including the historic anomaly of the 2000 Beavs, probably tip the scales, but the rest is close to a wash.
I don't think your jock comments hold up to the comparison.
Fair point. This Oregon team is the best Pac team since Pete Carroll's teams and they would plunger rape the 2000 Huskies/Beavers/Ducks.
Are we judging the whole conference here or just the best team? It's two different arguments.
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Also I think there is merit to understanding the concept of good teams getting better as the season progresses. Saying shit like "we have two teams playing for the title to Arizona and Vtech at home so it's all dreck" is the dumbest fucking concept. Serious 4th grade shit.
Every single conference has better out of conference and/or Bowl wins.
Pac 12- Michigan State, Florida State
Big 10- Alabama, Baylor
Big 12- Ole Miss
ACC- Georgia, Ohio State
I'm missing many more and not putting mediocre teams like Notre Dame on there.
Duke lost to ASU.
Everybody else in that division was 7-6 or worse.
Solid answer.
Why is it that losing to Arizona or Virginia Tech early is fine but losing a bowl game makes you Big Sky fodder? I thought the whole season mattered, isn't that the beauty of college football?
Arizona got Oregon at a great time when Oregon was playing shitty and had some key injuries. They beat UTSA by 3. At home, needed a hail mary to beat Cal, and got really fucking lucky to beat UW. They had a couple nice wins, but they were really average.
You done cleaning yourself up down there Sally?
it's just the fucking way it is. that's how a 3-8 USC team played Washington close for 50 minutes in 1991. just the nature of conference play. it's how a shit BC team almost beat the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, who needed a true fucking miracle to pull that game out of their asses.
Oregon may not be an all-time great team, but the Pac 12 is no more "Down" this year than it was in 1991 or 1984 or 2000. Give me a fucking break.
The Pac-12 fucking sucks too. Fortunately its one good team is better than the ACC's best. We'll find out if it's better than the B1G's best soon.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/9/pac-12-conference
The SEC finally looked like shit during bowl season.
Welcome to the club.
By the way, the 2014 Pac-12 couldn't hold the 2000 Pac-10's jockstrap.
I did upvote you for realizing that Arkansas is better than Stanford though.
Stanford: 8-5, 5-4
Arkansas: 7-6, 2-6
Stanford: +39 in conference
Arkansas: -12 in conference
That 2-6 is looking pretty fucking bad now after bowl season.
http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/non-conference-sos-by-other
i'll just say it: this year's Oregon team would thunder fuck 2000 Washington. the 2 Oregon teams, including the historic anomaly of the 2000 Beavs, probably tip the scales, but the rest is close to a wash.
I don't think your jock comments hold up to the comparison.
Are we judging the whole conference here or just the best team? It's two different arguments.