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The SEC West is obviously the best division in CFB

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?

    USC and UCLA. Scoreboard, baby
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
    ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,022 Founders Club

    Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?

    ASU and UCLA were equal to them.

    Pac 12 has about eight okay to pretty good, but not top ten caliber teams: Utah, SC, Stanford, UW, and those three. Okay It's seven. I said that in September.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
    Don't play this game, because then I have to stay stupid shit like Alabama beats Ohio State 5 out of 6 and stuff like that.

    Arizona won the fucking game. Winners win and losers lose, you know.

    Besides that, ASU got the unholiest of plunger rapes from UCLA and lost at Oregon State. I can't put them ahead of Arizona especially when the Wildcats beat them when it counted. I think Graham fucked ASU over by going back to Kelly. He wasn't the same guy after the injury.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
    Agree.

    ASU wasn't that good. They won a miracle game vs SC and missed Oregon. Ditto with Arizona, they should have lost to Cal and been plungered by #yourhuskies. I bet Stanford would have beat Arizona had they played. They were both very lucky, both teams were more like 8-4 level squads that had favorable schedules and a Hail Mary win.

    Right now today - Stanford is the 2nd best P12 team. Their revamped OL gelled, Hogan excelled down the stretch, and McCaffery emerged. They tore Cal UCLA and Maryland to shreds the last three games without Ty Montgomery nonetheless. They also had bad luck early in the year in the bizarre game vs Sark and at ND. Stanford's play right now befits that of a 10-2 type team in my opinion.

  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    AZDuck said:

    USC and UCLA. Scoreboard, baby
    But how did UCLA and USC finish behind them in the standings...and why do you think Oregon is only the fourth best team in the Pac-12?
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
    UW had its fucking chance and blew it. UW hasn't beaten anyone worth a shit this year. The Huskies aren't in the conversation.

    Stanford has one good win all year (at UCLA). USC choked away its chance to win the division at UCLA and UCLA choked away its chance to win the division against Stanford.

    Arizona won the games it needed to win because they are better than those three teams.

    Win or get the fuck out. Don't give me this hypothetical Sark bullshit.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Agree.

    ASU wasn't that good. They won a miracle game vs SC and missed Oregon. Ditto with Arizona, they should have lost to Cal and been plungered by #yourhuskies. I bet Stanford would have beat Arizona had they played. They were both very lucky, both teams were more like 8-4 level squads that had favorable schedules and a Hail Mary win.

    Right now today - Stanford is the 2nd best P12 team. Their revamped OL gelled, Hogan excelled down the stretch, and McCaffery emerged. They tore Cal UCLA and Maryland to shreds the last three games without Ty Montgomery nonetheless. They also had bad luck early in the year in the bizarre game vs Sark and at ND. Stanford's play right now befits that of a 10-2 type team in my opinion.

    Stanford's "quality wins" this year:
    UCLA
    Washington
    Maryland


    If that's the second best team in your league, your league fucking sucks.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    ASU and UCLA were equal to them.

    Pac 12 has about eight okay to pretty good, but not top ten caliber teams: Utah, SC, Stanford, UW, and those three. Okay It's seven. I said that in September.
    UW is not okay.

    Illinois is Washington's best win this year.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    One more stupid question:

    Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?
  • HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732

    One more stupid question:

    Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?

    Time to go to bed Boobs. You are obviously distraught over the SEC SEC SEC bowl meltdown and are polluting this board. A good night sleep and you'll wake up tomorrow with a clear view of how the SEC SEC SEC is and has been overrated.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Time to go to bed Boobs. You are obviously distraught over the SEC SEC SEC bowl meltdown and are polluting this board. A good night sleep and you'll wake up tomorrow with a clear view of how the SEC SEC SEC is and has been overrated.
    The SEC was overrated this year. I covered this shit so many hours ago, keep up or get out.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    One more stupid question:

    Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?

    Probably because the bowl system is run by a fucktard, like yourself, that lets in dreck like Az Ole Miss and Miss St.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Probably because the bowl system is run by a fucktard, like yourself, that lets in dreck like Az Ole Miss and Miss St.
    Or because there are 12 spots available and only about 7 teams worthy of filling them?
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    @avinashkunnath: SEC West teams lost to…
    Notre Dame on a 4 game losing streak
    A team without a head coach
    An offense from 1914
    A 3rd string B1G QB

    Hth
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