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Folsom vs Oceanside

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,249 Founders Club
    He beat a bunch of surfer dudes
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,663 Founders Club
    I'm not sure if they reshuffle the rankings again before signing day, but if they do Biggins essentially said Browning is moving up. Way up.

    I bleat for Pete!
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    BlowItUp said:
    As I read on another thread, this is the first time Biggins has seen Browning in a live game. Yet he sure had an opinion, based on the summer circuit. These recruiting d-bags are a joke.
    Biggins is one of the good ones. I don't remember him bashing Browning, but even if he did he's not afraid to change that opinion now that he's seen him. He's not doubling down on a bad evaluation.

    Biggins should never be lumped in with the LP3.
    Agree, but it does show how stupid recruiting rankings can be. Biggins hadn't seen him all year. He sees Browning have the same type of game he's had all year and now raves about him. If Browning threw two picks, he would say he had concerns. It's fickle bullshit.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,814
    edited December 2014

    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    BlowItUp said:
    As I read on another thread, this is the first time Biggins has seen Browning in a live game. Yet he sure had an opinion, based on the summer circuit. These recruiting d-bags are a joke.
    Biggins is one of the good ones. I don't remember him bashing Browning, but even if he did he's not afraid to change that opinion now that he's seen him. He's not doubling down on a bad evaluation.

    Biggins should never be lumped in with the LP3.
    Agree, but it does show how stupid recruiting rankings can be. Biggins hadn't seen him all year. He sees Browning have the same type of game he's had all year and now raves about him. If Browning threw two picks, he would say he had concerns. It's fickle bullshit.
    There are definitely significant small sample size issues, agreed, but that's kind of the essence of scouting in general. How many times did the UW staff see Browning live before they offered him? It's the nature of the beast, but it certainly speaks to why you should never take someone's ranking as gospel.
  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Browning seems indifferent at times. Not great with the media. It's wait and see right now.

    Close your legs faux.
  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    HuskyJW said:

    A QB with a good arm wins us 10 games this year

    Finally another poster kinda gets it. Not just arm JW. Its the cerebral part that needs improvement. Too many open rreceivers left open. Just stepping up in pocket, keeping eyes downfield and throwing with anticipation gets us to 10 wins.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    BlowItUp said:
    As I read on another thread, this is the first time Biggins has seen Browning in a live game. Yet he sure had an opinion, based on the summer circuit. These recruiting d-bags are a joke.
    Biggins is one of the good ones. I don't remember him bashing Browning, but even if he did he's not afraid to change that opinion now that he's seen him. He's not doubling down on a bad evaluation.

    Biggins should never be lumped in with the LP3.
    Agree, but it does show how stupid recruiting rankings can be. Biggins hadn't seen him all year. He sees Browning have the same type of game he's had all year and now raves about him. If Browning threw two picks, he would say he had concerns. It's fickle bullshit.
    There are definitely significant small sample size issues, agreed, but that's kind of the essence of scouting in general. How many times did the UW staff see Browning live before they offered him? It's the nature of the beast, but it certainly speaks to why you should never take someone's ranking as gospel.
    I bet Petersen and/or staff attended multiple practices last spring/summer, had watched real game film (not highlights), and attended a game or two this year.
  • biak1biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    No "Not in the middle of the store?" Pressing.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    The process Pete and all go through is probably something like this:

    They hear about kids through channels (coaching scuttlebut, friends in HS, etc). They get multiple recommendations. They have an 'office boy' they trust sort through game film and find guys who have physical ability.

    They either have cut-ups from the school or the office boy makes cut-ups. They make an assessment of physical ability through the cut-ups (which are supposed to be representative, not exhaustive).

    After that, they make contacts with the kid and his coaches (and local coaches) to get a feel for how the kid is as a person.

    Based on that they rank the kid vis a vis their needs and either offer a kid or they don't.

    Some people like to see people in person, camps, spring practices to make evals as well. That all goes into it. But coaches aren't watching full game film of recruits, that never happens, they wouldn't have time for anything else.
  • HuskyHalfBrainHuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311

    The process Pete and all go through is probably something like this:

    They hear about kids through channels (coaching scuttlebut, friends in HS, etc). They get multiple recommendations. They have an 'office boy' they trust sort through game film and find guys who have physical ability.

    They either have cut-ups from the school or the office boy makes cut-ups. They make an assessment of physical ability through the cut-ups (which are supposed to be representative, not exhaustive).

    After that, they make contacts with the kid and his coaches (and local coaches) to get a feel for how the kid is as a person.

    Based on that they rank the kid vis a vis their needs and either offer a kid or they don't.

    Some people like to see people in person, camps, spring practices to make evals as well. That all goes into it. But coaches aren't watching full game film of recruits, that never happens, they wouldn't have time for anything else.

    Hi, Tequilla‌!
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    The process Pete and all go through is probably something like this:

    They hear about kids through channels (coaching scuttlebut, friends in HS, etc). They get multiple recommendations. They have an 'office boy' they trust sort through game film and find guys who have physical ability.

    They either have cut-ups from the school or the office boy makes cut-ups. They make an assessment of physical ability through the cut-ups (which are supposed to be representative, not exhaustive).

    After that, they make contacts with the kid and his coaches (and local coaches) to get a feel for how the kid is as a person.

    Based on that they rank the kid vis a vis their needs and either offer a kid or they don't.

    Some people like to see people in person, camps, spring practices to make evals as well. That all goes into it. But coaches aren't watching full game film of recruits, that never happens, they wouldn't have time for anything else.

    Hi, Tequilla‌!
    That's @Tequilla‌ Bartlett!
  • d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
    Doogles said:

    How did Jordan Miller look, the CB commit from Oceanside?

    It's hard to say because it was such a one-sided beat down, but from what i could tell he's pretty underwhelming. He got beat on one on one coverage by some guy going to uc davis on a slant in the redzone. He made zero impact offensively, and the only kick off I saw him take he looked kinda slow. He appeared to have a bigger body, he looked the part, but the white kids from folsom played better.
    Can I get a report on their uniforms?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 45,576 Standard Supporter
    d2d said:

    Doogles said:

    How did Jordan Miller look, the CB commit from Oceanside?

    It's hard to say because it was such a one-sided beat down, but from what i could tell he's pretty underwhelming. He got beat on one on one coverage by some guy going to uc davis on a slant in the redzone. He made zero impact offensively, and the only kick off I saw him take he looked kinda slow. He appeared to have a bigger body, he looked the part, but the white kids from folsom played better.
    Can I get a report on their uniforms hotty cheerleaders?
    FOCUS!
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited December 2014
    I'm hearing Brpwning might not have the physical tools but does not lack when it comes to the intangibles. He's a heady player. Cerebral in fact. Lives on the film room. Great work ethic. Lunch pail type.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,663 Founders Club
    d2d said:

    Doogles said:

    How did Jordan Miller look, the CB commit from Oceanside?

    It's hard to say because it was such a one-sided beat down, but from what i could tell he's pretty underwhelming. He got beat on one on one coverage by some guy going to uc davis on a slant in the redzone. He made zero impact offensively, and the only kick off I saw him take he looked kinda slow. He appeared to have a bigger body, he looked the part, but the white kids from folsom played better.
    Can I get a report on their uniforms?
    Pink tootoos.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    The process Pete and all go through is probably something like this:

    They hear about kids through channels (coaching scuttlebut, friends in HS, etc). They get multiple recommendations. They have an 'office boy' they trust sort through game film and find guys who have physical ability.

    They either have cut-ups from the school or the office boy makes cut-ups. They make an assessment of physical ability through the cut-ups (which are supposed to be representative, not exhaustive).

    After that, they make contacts with the kid and his coaches (and local coaches) to get a feel for how the kid is as a person.

    Based on that they rank the kid vis a vis their needs and either offer a kid or they don't.

    Some people like to see people in person, camps, spring practices to make evals as well. That all goes into it. But coaches aren't watching full game film of recruits, that never happens, they wouldn't have time for anything else.

    Spot on other than coaches do watch actual game film of the recruits. It takes about an hour. They have plenty of time to squeeze in a few games a week, especially in the off season.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    The process Pete and all go through is probably something like this:

    They hear about kids through channels (coaching scuttlebut, friends in HS, etc). They get multiple recommendations. They have an 'office boy' they trust sort through game film and find guys who have physical ability.

    They either have cut-ups from the school or the office boy makes cut-ups. They make an assessment of physical ability through the cut-ups (which are supposed to be representative, not exhaustive).

    After that, they make contacts with the kid and his coaches (and local coaches) to get a feel for how the kid is as a person.

    Based on that they rank the kid vis a vis their needs and either offer a kid or they don't.

    Some people like to see people in person, camps, spring practices to make evals as well. That all goes into it. But coaches aren't watching full game film of recruits, that never happens, they wouldn't have time for anything else.

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  • d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
    Doogles said:

    d2d said:

    Doogles said:

    How did Jordan Miller look, the CB commit from Oceanside?

    It's hard to say because it was such a one-sided beat down, but from what i could tell he's pretty underwhelming. He got beat on one on one coverage by some guy going to uc davis on a slant in the redzone. He made zero impact offensively, and the only kick off I saw him take he looked kinda slow. He appeared to have a bigger body, he looked the part, but the white kids from folsom played better.
    Can I get a report on their uniforms?
    Pink tootoos.
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