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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,405 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Of course you want a talent like that, but If Brownie is as good as I hope Eason won't see the field until he's a Senior year.

    In all honesty, I'm a little jaded when it comes to QB recruiting. We currently have 4 4-star kids on the roster, 1 of which was the us army all-american game mvp, and our QB play this year was dawg shit. Too much blame when it goes wrong, too much praise when it goes right, yada yada yada.

    It's hard to predict who has the mental aspect on lock when the stadium is full, the defense is swarming, and the windows are tight. They all look good, until they don't. We witnessed complete brainlock this year, and i nearly killed myself every saturday as a result. I guess I just backtracked on everything i previously said and no longer give a fuck who we sign.

    Agree. They were all good in high school. Miles won the MVP of an All American game. Lindquist was a beast for Mercer Island. Troy Williams was a really big deal in LA. I watched a high school sports report show down here that said Williams was the best public school LA kid in a long time. It's a whole different ball game in college. It remains to be seen if Eason has the mental capacity and toughness to be a great college QB. Same goes for Browning.

    That's why I'm not as bullish on Browning as some here, although I like him a lot. He's a great high school QB, but who gives a fuck? He's going to have a lot of competition to win the job. Before Browning, Maty Mauck (Missouri's QB) was destroying the record books. While Mauck is decent for Missouri, he's not setting college football on fire either.

    That said, Eason's physical talent jumps out after watching a minute or two. It's easy to see why elite schools covet him and the expert TBSers drool (I'm trying to be appropriate on this board) over him.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Doogles said:

    I guess I just backtracked on everything i previously said and no longer give a fuck who we sign.

    You hit the nail on the head here.

    Even though I'm on the #jakebrowningsucks bandwagon, and I'm on the #teamskinny whatever for next year and I'd rather have had #rossbowers this year... I also DGAF who we sign, because I have some confidence that Pete knows what he's doing.

    Also, no matter how awesome you think a guy is... even if Jake Browning is John Elway II, you ALWAYS have to get a guy this year and next year. Browning may be amazing, but he could also have a degenerative back issues #hicolin or he could be paralyzed in an accident or whatever.

    You get as many talented players on the roster as possible and you sort it out after that. I want Browning, Skinny and whomever else we think is the top player.

    All that said, I love Skinny. The kid is unreal.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    The coaches actually made Cyler Miles an average to above average (by stats) quarterback this year. That speaks volumes to me about their ability to get the most out of their QB's.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Doogles said:

    Of course you want a talent like that, but If Brownie is as good as I hope Eason won't see the field until he's a Senior year.

    In all honesty, I'm a little jaded when it comes to QB recruiting. We currently have 4 4-star kids on the roster, 1 of which was the us army all-american game mvp, and our QB play this year was dawg shit. Too much blame when it goes wrong, too much praise when it goes right, yada yada yada.

    It's hard to predict who has the mental aspect on lock when the stadium is full, the defense is swarming, and the windows are tight. They all look good, until they don't. We witnessed complete brainlock this year, and i nearly killed myself every saturday as a result. I guess I just backtracked on everything i previously said and no longer give a fuck who we sign.

    Agree. They were all good in high school. Miles won the MVP of an All American game. Lindquist was a beast for Mercer Island. Troy Williams was a really big deal in LA. I watched a high school sports report show down here that said Williams was the best public school LA kid in a long time. It's a whole different ball game in college. It remains to be seen if Eason has the mental capacity and toughness to be a great college QB. Same goes for Browning.

    That's why I'm not as bullish on Browning as some here, although I like him a lot. He's a great high school QB, but who gives a fuck? He's going to have a lot of competition to win the job. Before Browning, Maty Mauck (Missouri's QB) was destroying the record books. While Mauck is decent for Missouri, he's not setting college football on fire either.

    That said, Eason's physical talent jumps out after watching a minute or two. It's easy to see why elite schools covet him and the expert TBSers drool (I'm trying to be appropriate on this board) over him.
    Yet you can win ten games in the SEC with MM. Considering what we had this year, I'd say that Browning starts if he's that good. It's not a high bar, yeah?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,405 Standard Supporter

    The coaches actually made Cyler Miles an average to above average (by stats) quarterback this year. That speaks volumes to me about their ability to get the most out of their QB's.

    Really? I didn't think Miles looked any different from 2013. If anything, he looked worse. I don't think Miles is good, but I wouldn't say the coaches worked any miracle with him either.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Yeah. Listen, I am not saying he is a great QB at all. But he played really limited snaps last year and he looked decent, he was greatly aided by an entirely different offensive group around him (STRING!, Kevin Smith, Sankey, ASJ).

    His numbers for 2013 were: 37/61 60.7% 418 yards, 6.9ypa 4TD 2INT 133.3 Rating
    His numbers for 2014 were: 194/291 66.7% 2129 yards, 7.3ypa 16TD 3INT 144.2 Rating

    Again, not great, but those are above average numbers. I fully admit he is not a good quarterback, just watch him throw the ball, watch when he throws the ball on the run, watch when he randomly just drops the ball, watch the lack of strength in his throws. We all see that, but I think for how limited he is he actually had some decent numbers.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    The coaches actually made Cyler Miles an average to above average (by stats) quarterback this year. That speaks volumes to me about their ability to get the most out of their QB's.

    No they didn't.

    He was easily a below average Pac12 QB this year.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    Doogles said:

    Of course you want a talent like that, but If Brownie is as good as I hope Eason won't see the field until he's a Senior year.

    In all honesty, I'm a little jaded when it comes to QB recruiting. We currently have 4 4-star kids on the roster, 1 of which was the us army all-american game mvp, and our QB play this year was dawg shit. Too much blame when it goes wrong, too much praise when it goes right, yada yada yada.

    It's hard to predict who has the mental aspect on lock when the stadium is full, the defense is swarming, and the windows are tight. They all look good, until they don't. We witnessed complete brainlock this year, and i nearly killed myself every saturday as a result. I guess I just backtracked on everything i previously said and no longer give a fuck who we sign.

    Browning and Eason are in different leagues right now as college prospects. Browning is good, but out of our last five QB recruits, I consider him the worst. He's accurate, pretty mobile, and he puts up gaudy numbers in his Mike Leach offense, but he's not an elite prospect. He has a very low release that needs tweaking, hasn't demonstrated the ability to take anything more than a 3-step drop, and has average arm strength. Plus, who knows how his playing in a painfully simplified offense is going to translate to the college game. Eason on the other hand, is as elite as they come. Of course he has prototypical size, but beyond that he grades out excellently in arm strength, release/mechanics, accuracy, and he isn't hiding any deficiencies through a system offense. Kid is an absolute stud.

    Well shit. This is more time than any grown man should spend talking about teenage boys.