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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Gladstone said:

    Manning's only offensive asset is his arm ... nothing else about playing QB he does very well.

    Are you talking about Eli or Peyton?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Tequilla said:

    Gladstone said:

    Thinking about Smith's handling of Ross, one of the most explosive playmakers in the country, makes me want to break something. Unbelievable.

    Ross' only offensive asset is his speed ... nothing else about playing WR he does very well.
    So Pathon? Wgaf, just give him the damn ball and watch him score
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Actually it's Cupper.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    Canard said:

    vadawg said:

    IMO, the talent level left to Pete is way below what most people believed at the beginning of the year. Pete is trying to figure out who's going to stay with the team in the future and who isn't at this point. Everything I'm seeing on the field is experimentation to see who's worth a shit and who isn't.

    And do you really think Sark would have left if he thought he'd stock piled a team with PAC 12 championship caliber players?!?! What fucking coach has EVER done that???

    Fuck people, let the foundation be built before you decide the house is going to fall down! Too many fucking chicken littles around here.

    The "process" detailed in the blewprints has too much Mike Riley design influence in it.
    What's your position on Petersen again?
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    haie said:

    Canard said:

    vadawg said:

    IMO, the talent level left to Pete is way below what most people believed at the beginning of the year. Pete is trying to figure out who's going to stay with the team in the future and who isn't at this point. Everything I'm seeing on the field is experimentation to see who's worth a shit and who isn't.

    And do you really think Sark would have left if he thought he'd stock piled a team with PAC 12 championship caliber players?!?! What fucking coach has EVER done that???

    Fuck people, let the foundation be built before you decide the house is going to fall down! Too many fucking chicken littles around here.

    The "process" detailed in the blewprints has too much Mike Riley design influence in it.
    What's your position on Petersen again?
    Don't think he's reached the requisite 23 times before it's over-used. Could be getting close.
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754

    As for the Smith, he is over his head. His first year at Boise St, his offense avg. 30 pts/ game, by far their lowest output in recent memory(I went back to 03'). They raised it up to 38 pts/ game in 12' bolstered by scoring 60+ against UT-Martin & So. Miss (1-11 that year).

    6 years prior to Smith, Boise avg. 39+ pts/game for 6 straight years.

    All you need to know about Smith is he obviously thinks Mickens > Ross & Washington > Cooper
    and after pounding down ASU's throat down the middle, you run a pitch to Shaq (with him lined up on that side of QB) on a key 3rd down at their 2.

    Smith wasn't the OC at Boise, he was the QB coach there.

    Robert Prince was the dreck OC in 2012, 2013.
    Fuck me. Shows how much I have been paying attention to this shit show.

    Now I feel much better knowing we hired a QB coach from a Power 15 conference to be our OC.

  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463

    As for the Smith, he is over his head. His first year at Boise St, his offense avg. 30 pts/ game, by far their lowest output in recent memory(I went back to 03'). They raised it up to 38 pts/ game in 12' bolstered by scoring 60+ against UT-Martin & So. Miss (1-11 that year).

    6 years prior to Smith, Boise avg. 39+ pts/game for 6 straight years.

    All you need to know about Smith is he obviously thinks Mickens > Ross & Washington > Cooper
    and after pounding down ASU's throat down the middle, you run a pitch to Shaq (with him lined up on that side of QB) on a key 3rd down at their 2.

    Smith wasn't the OC at Boise, he was the QB coach there.

    Robert Prince was the dreck OC in 2012, 2013.
    Fuck me. Shows how much I have been paying attention to this shit show.

    Now I feel much better knowing we hired a QB coach from a Power 15 conference to be our OC.

    He was being groomed for UW

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited November 2014
    Tequilla said:

    Gladstone said:

    Thinking about Smith's handling of Ross, one of the most explosive playmakers in the country, makes me want to break something. Unbelievable.

    Ross' only offensive asset is his speed ... nothing else about playing WR he does very well.
    That is an assumption. I can't recall Ross ever dropping a pass. Elite speed, ability to make people miss, good hands. There are 3 traits he does well that factor into playing WR.

    Ross is already starting at CB and probably the best CB on the team. I'm not complaining about the move, but I think it's fair to say Ross' ability wasn't optimized on offense.

    I haven't seen much creativity in using him. I personally think he should have been used more like DAT. Move him around, put him in the backfield sometimes with another back, sometimes by himself, in the slot, out wide. Ross mostly played on the outside, which may not be what he is suited for. I think he's more of a utility guy and a weapon then strictly an outside WR.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
    All this requires creativity by your OC, which we have none. I agree completely, as the staff failed greatly in utilizing his abilities and getting him the ball.

    It's nice seeing him get time on the field, though it'd be really nice to see the fastest guy on the team get chances at taking it to the house. More so than his 1 or 2 plays on offense.

    Tequilla said:

    Gladstone said:

    Thinking about Smith's handling of Ross, one of the most explosive playmakers in the country, makes me want to break something. Unbelievable.

    Ross' only offensive asset is his speed ... nothing else about playing WR he does very well.
    That is an assumption. I can't recall Ross ever dropping a pass. Elite speed, ability to make people miss, good hands. There are 3 traits he does well that factor into playing WR.

    Ross is already starting at CB and probably the best CB on the team. I'm not complaining about the move, but I think it's fair to say Ross' ability wasn't optimized on offense.

    I haven't seen much creativity in using him. I personally think he should have been used more like DAT. Move him around, put him in the backfield sometimes with another back, sometimes by himself, in the slot, out wide. Ross mostly played on the outside, which may not be what he is suited for. I think he's more of a utility guy and a weapon then strictly an outside WR.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,758
    Tui- Alexis style option with Shaq and which ever Qb can run it, with hot routes to Ross and Kasen or Daniels up the middle. It's not rocket science