I bet a lot of fans are glad this guy isn't a GM. What would he have done with these guys in their first couple of years...
Eli Manning 48% 53% 57% 56% Peyton 56% 28 INT Brees 59% 31 INTs 1st 2 full seasons Flaco 57% in yr 4
The performances by RGIII and RW were very rare, and almost every QB in the history of the NFL would be considered a failure when compared to their rookie season.
Maybe give the guy more than 1 full season before Nostradumbass considers it a complete failure.
How's Lockner doing for you on Madden 2014?
I bet you are one of these young Husky fans that talk about how great Sonny was @ QB. Even with those numbers and record, he is a Husky Legend after all.
The hate for Jake cracks me up.
It's not hate to point out how mediocre Jake Locker was as a college quarterback. The facts and the stats speak for themselves.
Please take off you Sonny jersey before you post.
He IS a Husky Legend.
Dude was 15-25 as a starting QB in his Husky career. If that makes him a legend, that means the football program is more fucked than any of us feared.
I noticed you don't bother to reference any of his stats...I can't imagine why.
My God, does anyone on here know anything about Husky football? Go get a coffee and browse through the Husky record book.
You might see Jake's name once or twice.
So he played for 2 of the worst coaches in Husky history, but the record is put at his doorstep?
Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
Jake's in the record books because he started 40 games. He accumulated numbers by playing a lot, not by playing well.
Here are the career leaders by passer rating for Husky QBs (source, minimum 100 pass attempts):
Price - 138.9 (BENCH HIS BLACK ASS!!!!) Moon - 134.9 Flick - 133.7 Hobert - 132.4 B. Huard - 131.3 D. Huard - 129.9 Pickett - 125.0 Cowan - 123.3 Stanback - 122.9 Tuiasosopo - 121.7 Locker - 119.0
Thanks for proving once again that Doogs hate stats and facts. The myth that Jake Locker was a legendary Husky is sickening. He was a white Stanback, at best (hi Golve!).
#4 @ 191/gm (ahead of Price, Moon, Tui, Billy Jo, Tui)
Completions /game (career):
#2 @ 15.5
Int % (career):
#4 @ .0305 (ahead of Tui, Brock, Moon and Billy Jo)
Longest pass play:
#1, #6 & #9
Most 50+ passes:
tied @ #2
And I could go on and on. If you bring up the # of games argument, then I get to use the head coach and surrounding offensive talent (no ASJ or Kasen, etc)
Passer rating is the equivalent of an efficiency rating in basketball. It's not just 1 stat. You might want to wiki passer rating. It factors completions, yards, touchdowns, INT, and attempts. Locker may carry solid bulk numbers, but fact is, he wasn't efficient.
Are you serious??? Wow, thanks for the tip.
Locker was drafted for his physical potential. A dumbass owner in Tennessee figured that hey, this guy is fast, tall, and has a cannon, maybe if we teach him some smarts he'll be great!!! Problem is, smarts as it turns out is as important if not more important than physical ability and Locker doesn't have it. Locker isn't quarterback smart, sorry to hurt your feelings.
Sorry, just saw your resume. I will defer to you with ALL of you NFL GM experience. )
I like facts, and when your numbers mirror Joey Harrington, you should move to safety.
And based on that standard, you would have pulled the plug on the QBs I mentioned earlier. I know the fan base of each of those teams is thanking God you are not their GM.
Does he have a decent career, who knows? But pulling the plug after 1 season as a starter is a joke, especially considering the injuries.
Drafting him in the top 10 was the much bigger joke. Fortunately for Jake, his contract is guaranteed through 2014. The case will be closed after that season.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Tavaras Jackson and John Skeleton have some highlight reel worthy throws as well. Do you realize Jake was ranked #32 (dead last) out of all starting QB's by Ron Jaworski, a man who does nothing but break down film?
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Tavaras Jackson and John Skeleton have some highlight reel worthy throws as well. Do you realize Jake was ranked #32 (dead last) out of all starting QB's by Ron Jaworski, a man who does nothing but break down film?
You do realize it was in response to his 1 pick 6 highlight, right???
Those four quarterbacks actually demonstrated they could play quarterback competently in college.
When did Lockner demonstrate that? Price in 2011 was better than Lockner ever was, and douchebags like you can't run Price out of the program fast enough.
Shit Price 2012 was better than any Lockner season.
Not true. Lockner's last two years were slightly better than Price 2012.
Price in 2011 was amazing, especially just three years after 0-12.
Good call although Price had a better completion percentage Jake barely had a better rating plus rushing yards. I stand corrected.
Although if you hear Millen and Doogs talk they act like Jake's 2009/2010 were far superior to Price awful 2012 season.
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Do you follow Nascar? I usually only see this high level drafting at Daga or Daytona? Sure hope some of the top posters don't stop quickly, because your head is going to be inserted in a painful position.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Do you follow Nascar? I usually only see this high level drafting at Daga or Daytona? Sure hope some of the top posters don't stop quickly, because your head is going to be inserted in a painful position.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
You've repeated every line from the Doog script. You even resorted to calling out a poster for not being an NFL GM when you couldn't respond to his facts.
Your level of pressing is exactly why banning Harv was stupid.
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Do you follow Nascar? I usually only see this high level drafting at Daga or Daytona? Sure hope some of the top posters don't stop quickly, because your head is going to be inserted in a painful position.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
You've repeated every line from the Doog script. You even resorted to calling out a poster for not being an NFL GM when you couldn't respond to his facts.
Your level of pressing is exactly why banning Harv was stupid.
Hold the phone. So, when I express my opinion I am "too dense to argue with". Yet when I challenge that person's football knowledge I am using the "Doog handbook".
And I have provided more stats than anyone in this thread.
Nice job with the talking points.
Thanks for proving my point about the original thought. But it's much easier just to call someone a Doog an move on. That is really clever.
Maybe you should quit trying to ride the coattails of others.
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Do you follow Nascar? I usually only see this high level drafting at Daga or Daytona? Sure hope some of the top posters don't stop quickly, because your head is going to be inserted in a painful position.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
You've repeated every line from the Doog script. You even resorted to calling out a poster for not being an NFL GM when you couldn't respond to his facts.
Your level of pressing is exactly why banning Harv was stupid.
Hold the phone. So, when I express my opinion I am "too dense to argue with". Yet when I challenge that person's football knowledge I am using the "Doog handbook".
And I have provided more stats than anyone in this thread.
Nice job with the talking points.
Thanks for proving my point about the original thought. But it's much easier just to call someone a Doog an move on. That is really clever.
Maybe you should quit trying to ride the coattails of others.
Challenging a person's knowledge because they never coached or GMed is a classic Doog move. Idiots on Doogman have done that for over a decade straight now.
Unless you're a GM of a NFL team, you have no right to justify the stupidity of wasting a top ten pick on Lockner.
You provided a lot of cherrypicked stats that are all neatly summarized in one standard stat that you didn't like. Impressive if I compare you to a typical poster of your ilk, but that's like comparing Sark to Ty.
Jake is a legend because the media and fans wanted him to be, even though the black quarterback before him was just as good as he was and the black quarterback after him is significantly better.
The best part about guilty white Seattle liberals is how racist they actually are.
Anyone who is truly attempting to argue that Jake was an above average quarterback is too dense to argue with.
I bet every opposing head coach that went up against Jake would rate him above average as a COLLEGE QB.
But once again I will defer to your knowledge because I am sure you have a better handle on the game then most coaches.
Damn I forgot to put this in my doog myths topic. Whenever a Doog can't argue his point using facts he'll passively aggressively mock you by stating "what do you know? Are you a head coach or GM? Yea that's what I thought".
Do you follow Nascar? I usually only see this high level drafting at Daga or Daytona? Sure hope some of the top posters don't stop quickly, because your head is going to be inserted in a painful position.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
You've repeated every line from the Doog script. You even resorted to calling out a poster for not being an NFL GM when you couldn't respond to his facts.
Your level of pressing is exactly why banning Harv was stupid.
Hold the phone. So, when I express my opinion I am "too dense to argue with". Yet when I challenge that person's football knowledge I am using the "Doog handbook".
And I have provided more stats than anyone in this thread.
Nice job with the talking points.
Thanks for proving my point about the original thought. But it's much easier just to call someone a Doog an move on. That is really clever.
Maybe you should quit trying to ride the coattails of others.
Challenging a person's knowledge because they never coached or GMed is a classic Doog move. Idiots on Doogman have done that for over a decade straight now.
Unless you're a GM of a NFL team, you have no right to justify the stupidity of wasting a top ten pick on Lockner.
You provided a lot of cherrypicked stats that are all neatly summarized in one standard stat that you didn't like. Impressive if I compare you to a typical poster of your ilk, but that's like comparing Sark to Ty.
Jake is a legend because the media and fans wanted him to be, even though the black quarterback before him was just as good as he was and the black quarterback after him is significantly better.
The best part about guilty white Seattle liberals is how racist they actually are.
Try and keep up.
Step 1 = "I am to dense to argue with" because I have a different opinion of Jake
Step 2 = I fire back with a GM comment because his opinion must be the only one that matters
Fuck all this metrics, efficiency, or rushing numbers... They are nice but this is getting way to complicated...There is one very easy thing to look at that shows just how meh of a QB Jack is/was... his winning percentage in college
Here are a few... you will notice Jack seems to lag behind somewhat
Drew Brees - 65% Tom Brady - 88% Peyton Manning - 77% Eli Manning - 64% Ben Roethlisberger - 71% Philip Rivers - 71% Matt Ryan- 79% Joe Flacco - 62% Aaron Rodgers - 75% Carson Palmer - 63% Sam Bradford 77% Matt Schaub - 66% Andrew Luck - 79% Russell Wilson - 60% Colin Kaepernick - 63% RG3 - 50%
Jack Lockner - 23%
Winners fucking win, Great or good college QBs made for the NFL win games regardless shitty coaching, weather, altitude, bad OLs, or shitty WRs. AllJayAllCutler is likely the only other starting QB in the NFL with a similarly poor record and he sucks.
Fuck all this metrics, efficiency, or rushing numbers... They are nice but this is getting way to complicated...There is one very easy thing to look at that shows just how meh of a QB Jack is/was... his winning percentage in college
Here are a few... you will notice Jack seems to lag behind somewhat
Drew Brees - 65% Tom Brady - 50% Peyton Manning - 77% Eli Manning - 64% Ben Roethlisberger - 71% Philip Rivers - 71% Matt Ryan- 79% Joe Flacco - 62% Aaron Rodgers - 75% Carson Palmer - 63% Sam Bradford 77% Matt Schaub - 66% Andrew Luck - 79% Russell Wilson - 60% Colin Kaepernick - 63% RG3 - 50%
Jack Lockner - 23%
Winners fucking win, Great or good college QBs made for the NFL win games regardless shitty coaching, weather, altitude, bad OLs, or shitty WRs. AllJayAllCutler is likely the only other starting QB in the NFL with a similarly poor record and he sucks.
I'm going to have to disagree. There is plenty of QB's who won games in college who turned out to be shitty.
On the flip side John Elway had a shitty W-L. Bledsoe had a shitty W-L as well. So I don't know if I buy that as the predictor.
There's no way Tom Brady won only 50% of his games in college. He was basically a two year starter (I know Henson made a few starts as well) and Michigan went 10-3 and 10-2 in those two years (98 & 99). I can't find how many games Brady started but he attempted way more passes than Henson, so I am assuming he started the vast majority of them.
There's no way Tom Brady won only 50% of his games in college. He was basically a two year starter (I know Henson made a few starts as well) and Michigan went 10-3 and 10-2 in those two years (98 & 99). I can't find how many games Brady started but he attempted way more passes than Henson, so I am assuming he started the vast majority of them.
1) they reference Jack's throwing shoulder when we all know it's his non-throwing shoulder that will break into pieces
2) one of the comments is from a very intelligent poster "who moved to Bellingham recently" .... ummm, if you did not grow up in Bellingham and then move there you have no credibility, you are pathetic and you probably spend your Friday nights taking down the buffet of bad slices at Izzy's.
There's no way Tom Brady won only 50% of his games in college. He was basically a two year starter (I know Henson made a few starts as well) and Michigan went 10-3 and 10-2 in those two years (98 & 99). I can't find how many games Brady started but he attempted way more passes than Henson, so I am assuming he started the vast majority of them.
Comments
Wow, "people" around here are funny.
You are excused.
Price in 2011 was amazing, especially just three years after 0-12.
Good call although Price had a better completion percentage Jake barely had a better rating plus rushing yards. I stand corrected.
Although if you hear Millen and Doogs talk they act like Jake's 2009/2010 were far superior to Price awful 2012 season.
Please, just 1 original thought. If you quit following along like a Zombie and repeating talking points, you just might stumble upon one.
Your level of pressing is exactly why banning Harv was stupid.
And I have provided more stats than anyone in this thread.
Nice job with the talking points.
Thanks for proving my point about the original thought. But it's much easier just to call someone a Doog an move on. That is really clever.
Maybe you should quit trying to ride the coattails of others.
Unless you're a GM of a NFL team, you have no right to justify the stupidity of wasting a top ten pick on Lockner.
You provided a lot of cherrypicked stats that are all neatly summarized in one standard stat that you didn't like. Impressive if I compare you to a typical poster of your ilk, but that's like comparing Sark to Ty.
Jake is a legend because the media and fans wanted him to be, even though the black quarterback before him was just as good as he was and the black quarterback after him is significantly better.
The best part about guilty white Seattle liberals is how racist they actually are.
Step 1 = "I am to dense to argue with" because I have a different opinion of Jake
Step 2 = I fire back with a GM comment because his opinion must be the only one that matters
Step 3 = I am a Doog
Step 4 = repeat step 1
Got it!!!!
This is getting comical. Now the racism card.
Sure you don't work for Obummer???
Here are a few... you will notice Jack seems to lag behind somewhat
Drew Brees - 65%
Tom Brady - 88%
Peyton Manning - 77%
Eli Manning - 64%
Ben Roethlisberger - 71%
Philip Rivers - 71%
Matt Ryan- 79%
Joe Flacco - 62%
Aaron Rodgers - 75%
Carson Palmer - 63%
Sam Bradford 77%
Matt Schaub - 66%
Andrew Luck - 79%
Russell Wilson - 60%
Colin Kaepernick - 63%
RG3 - 50%
Jack Lockner - 23%
Winners fucking win, Great or good college QBs made for the NFL win games regardless shitty coaching, weather, altitude, bad OLs, or shitty WRs. AllJayAllCutler is likely the only other starting QB in the NFL with a similarly poor record and he sucks.
On the flip side John Elway had a shitty W-L. Bledsoe had a shitty W-L as well. So I don't know if I buy that as the predictor.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tom-brady-1.html
1) they reference Jack's throwing shoulder when we all know it's his non-throwing shoulder that will break into pieces
2) one of the comments is from a very intelligent poster "who moved to Bellingham recently" .... ummm, if you did not grow up in Bellingham and then move there you have no credibility, you are pathetic and you probably spend your Friday nights taking down the buffet of bad slices at Izzy's.
1998 - 10-3
1997 - 12-0
88%