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But how is Romar a bad coach?

ThomasFremont

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

But how is Romar a bad coach?

The Jesus stuff is the only thing that comes to mind.

dnc

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

Doogles

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

Sounds like you're saying the answer to Romar's most terriblest coaching jobs is abundance.

RoadDawg55

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

FreeChavez

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

If i felt like re-opening this whole can of worms I would really get into the weeds on this. Instead i'll say let's agree to disagree and also state that TW is a very talented player who utilized about 1/5th of his actual defensive capability. His stats were incredibly inflated based on being a selfish player(specifically on defense). When you state he was all-pac 12, this is akin to saying someone is gold glove. It's more flash than actual people who are watching the games. TW scored, usually at full disregard for his team or winning the game, which gave him stats to be all-pac.

Overall, he wasn't bad, he wasn't great. He could have been unreal and chose a different path.

Still hope he puts it all together b/c he is one heck of a player when he wants to be. Just needed more time to mature and maybe getting kicked around the d-league a bit.

dnc

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

"You new here?" potd.

Ty Willingham was coach of the year.

Subjective awards don't mean shit.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Yes there were games he was the best player on the court (Duke in particular). There were as many or more where he was the worst.

RoadDawg55

dnc said:

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

"You new here?" potd.

Ty Willingham was coach of the year.

Subjective awards don't mean shit.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Yes there were games he was the best player on the court (Duke in particular). There were as many or more where he was the worst.

He was never the worst. He was really good for a freshman. He was All PAC 12 because he was one of the best players in the conference.

FreeChavez

dnc said:

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

"You new here?" potd.

Ty Willingham was coach of the year.

Subjective awards don't mean shit.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Yes there were games he was the best player on the court (Duke in particular). There were as many or more where he was the worst.

But he had 4 steals brah

dnc

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

RoadDawg55 said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I've always been a big Wroten fan. He's still flawed, but he will play in the NBA for a long time. The team he was on should have been a lot better and was probably Romar's worst coaching job.

It really is a disgrace to not make the tourney with 2 first rounders.

Usually yes.

But Tony Wroten was a fucking terrible basketball player as a freshman. The biggest issue with that season is Romar had no guard depth so he had no choice but play Wroten and couldn't bench him even after the 23rd time he decided to completely not play defense or fire a no look pass into the third row. I wasn't one who said "we'll be better since Wroten is leaving" since he assuredly would have matured some as a sophomore and that team would have had more backcourt depth to motivate Wroten to gaf if he wanted to play, but he was a really, really bad basketball player as a frosh.

Winning the conference with that dreck was a pretty decent accomplishment as far as Romar's career is concerned.

Romar's had much worse coaching jobs than that.

And yet Wroten made first team Pac 12. He wasn't bad at all. I've never agreed with anyone who said that. There were plenty of games where he was the best player on the floor.

"You new here?" potd.

Ty Willingham was coach of the year.

Subjective awards don't mean shit.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Yes there were games he was the best player on the court (Duke in particular). There were as many or more where he was the worst.

He was never the worst. He was really good for a freshman. He was All PAC 12 because he was one of the best players in the conference.

There were games he absolutely did not give a fuck, and in those games his utter disinterest on one end combined with his inability to make a free throw on the other made him really bad.