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The Iron Laws today

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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    edited October 2014
  • Auburndawg
    Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
    AZDuck said:

    Why does USC have location but UCLA does not.

    I said UCLA does have location. Learn to read
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited October 2014
    Ucla has tradition, not sure why you wouldn't think that.

    And Stanford has more money than the rest of the conference combined.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Obligatory for a new generation

    The WSU game last night illustrated my theory of the Iron Laws.

    Three factors contribute to long term CFB success:

    Location - proximity to a large recruiting base
    Tradition - does your school really care about football?
    Money - the ability to hire the best coaches and build the best facilities

    Yes, coaching matters. But long term, the strongest schools will attract the best coaches.

    How does this apply to today's PAC-12?

    Two schools are strong in all three areas: USC and UW.

    UCLA and Stanford have location, but are weak in the other two. Oregon has money, and now, tradition, but not location. Stanford and Oregon have benefited from good coaching in recent years, while bad coaching has lessened the advantages enjoyed by USC, UCLA, and UW.

    If we are right about Petersen, UW will soon be the best team in the PAC. At least until USC once again hires a competent coach.

    And what about the rest of the league?

    To play real football - running the ball and playing defense - you need to recruit lots of good athletes. Many schools, such as WSU, can't do that. To at least be competitive, teams turn to gimmicky offenses to try and lessen the talent gap. Everyone in the PAC-`12, other than USC, UCLA, Washington, and, at least during this recent era, Stanford and Oregon, face this dilemma.

    Good WRs are a dime a dozen. Now, if you can find a good QB, you're in business. You are at least entertaining and dangerous.

    But defense and running the ball wins championships, and WSU will never, never consistently recruit enough 4 and 5 stars athletes to do that.

    The Iron Laws -
    Location, Tradition, Money - always prevail over time.

    There's only one Iron Law, hire a good fucking coach. If somebody hires him away, hire another one.

    Location means jack shit. Tradition is built by hiring good coaches. Money is attracted to winning, which comes from good coaches.


  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I stopped reading after the subject line.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,662 Founders Club

    I stopped reading after the subject line.

    I stopped reading after the user name
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,480 Swaye's Wigwam
    Unless this thread gets interesting by halftime of the Pac12 network game of the week that doesn't matter and isn't on, this thread will be nuked.

    Dumbest fucking post ever.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Unless this thread gets interesting by halftime of the Pac12 network game of the week that doesn't matter and isn't on, this thread will be nuked.

    Dumbest fucking post ever.

    doogs gonna doog

  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827

    There are no iron laws...

    HTH

    Is that an iron law?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,167 Standard Supporter
    UCLA has tradition. It's nothing compared to USC's, but I would put it against any other team including Warshington. Oregon bought their tradition by acting like complete attention whores. I guess the people under 30 think they might have tradition.

    I think location is relevant when it comes to remote places like Pullman. Eugene is sort of close to Portland. It's probably harder to build a program from the towns and small cities, but once you are established as a program I don't think it matters much.