A Q for the board..

MikeDamone

we know the Doog and Troojan line that when sark took over he inherited a bare cupboard. But he is such a great coach and recruiter he made them into a respectable team.

Since Sark is a great recruiter (everyone says so), is Petersen inheriting a stocked cupboard? Or the bigger question, did Petersen walk into a team with more raw talent that Sark? I think at some positions yes and others certainly not. I give the edge to Sark inheriting more talent than Petersen. I could be wrong, but given how bad willingham was and how supposedly great Sark was, this shouldn't even be a debatable topic.

TTJ

I definitely think the top-to-bottom talent Peterman inherited is a bit better. But you fucking nailed it:

MikeDamone said:

...given how bad willingham was and how supposedly great Sark was, this shouldn't even be a debatable topic...

PostGameOrangeSlices

Sark went to a team stocked with 5 star offensive lineman in USC.

Peterman went to a team with barely enough 2 star offensive lineman to field a team.

Doogles

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Sark went to a team stocked with 5 star offensive lineman in USC.

Peterman went to a team with barely enough 2 star offensive lineman to field a team.

You lack reading comprehension.

TierbsHsotBoobs

MikeDamone said:

we know the Doog and Troojan line that when sark took over he inherited a bare cupboard. But he is such a great coach and recruiter he made them into a respectable team.

Since Sark is a great recruiter (everyone says so), is Petersen inheriting a stocked cupboard? Or the bigger question, did Petersen walk into a team with more raw talent that Sark? I think at some positions yes and others certainly not. I give the edge to Sark inheriting more talent than Petersen. I could be wrong, but given how bad willingham was and how supposedly great Sark was, this shouldn't even be a debatable topic.

Stop plagiarism puppy's takes from three weeks ago Da Moan.

MikeDamone

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Sark went to a team stocked with 5 star offensive lineman in USC.

Peterman went to a team with barely enough 2 star offensive lineman to field a team.

Wtf?

MikeDamone

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

MikeDamone said:

we know the Doog and Troojan line that when sark took over he inherited a bare cupboard. But he is such a great coach and recruiter he made them into a respectable team.

Since Sark is a great recruiter (everyone says so), is Petersen inheriting a stocked cupboard? Or the bigger question, did Petersen walk into a team with more raw talent that Sark? I think at some positions yes and others certainly not. I give the edge to Sark inheriting more talent than Petersen. I could be wrong, but given how bad willingham was and how supposedly great Sark was, this shouldn't even be a debatable topic.

Stop plagiarism puppy's takes from three weeks ago Da Moan.

I didn't see it. What was the consensus?

allpurpleallgold

This team is more talented than what Sark inherited IMHO. But Sark had a huge advantage in Lockner.

As much as I hate Lockner, he was better from day 1 than Miley or Lindquist will ever be.

If Lockner was on this team it wouldn't be 10 wins it would final four playoffs or gtfo.

TierbsHsotBoobs

allpurpleallgold said:

This team is more talented than what Sark inherited IMHO. But Sark had a huge advantage in Lockner.

As much as I hate Lockner, he was better from day 1 than Miley or Lindquist will ever be.

If Lockner was on this team it wouldn't be 10 wins it would final four playoffs or gtfo.

Disagree. Lockner would still shit the bed two games a year.

SweatpantsGeneral

You poasted a spreadsheet a few weeks ago that someone spoonfed you on another forum that showed Ty's NFL talent that Sark took credit for.

I will fucking guarantee that that list is 2:1 in favor of Ty in a few years.

MikeDamone

allpurpleallgold said:

This team is more talented than what Sark inherited IMHO. But Sark had a huge advantage in Lockner.

As much as I hate Lockner, he was better from day 1 than Miley or Lindquist will ever be.

If Lockner was on this team it wouldn't be 10 wins it would final four playoffs or gtfo.

Even without a top tier running back? Sark had locker and Polk.

TierbsHsotBoobs

He actually said it four weeks ago:
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/11949/told-u-bitches-sark-took-over-a-better-team-in-09

MikeDamone

Since I have no life maybe tomorrow I'll do a position by position breakdown. I'd do it now but I'm drinking. Better to do it during work hours.

Again, the fact that this is even a topic is astonishing.

MikeDamone

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

He actually said it four weeks ago:
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/11949/told-u-bitches-sark-took-over-a-better-team-in-09

Sounds like you dismissed the notion at the time.

allpurpleallgold

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

allpurpleallgold said:

This team is more talented than what Sark inherited IMHO. But Sark had a huge advantage in Lockner.

As much as I hate Lockner, he was better from day 1 than Miley or Lindquist will ever be.

If Lockner was on this team it wouldn't be 10 wins it would final four playoffs or gtfo.

Disagree. Lockner would still shit the bed two games a year.

If he lost 2 games because Jack shit the bed I'd be willing to AuburnDoog my expectations. He is a complete fucking loser so you're probably right.

TTJ

MikeDamone said:

Even without a top tier running back? Sark had locker and Polk.

Washington and Coleman will never be Polk/Sankey level backs. But they're good enough to win with. They certainly weren't the problem yesterday.

MikeDamone

Here is the 2009 starting O. Who to you trade out for yesterday's starting offense?

Locker
Polk
Aguilar
Schaefer/Ossi (lol)
Christine/Wood
Kelemete
Habban
Middleton
Johnson
Kearse.

doogsinparadise

It's really strange to say this, but outside of Stringfellow's half year and Kasen, WIllingham's receivers were a lot better. Defensive talent is miles (lol) ahead right now at the top end (Shelton, Shaq, Peters), but the middle and bottom are not any better (Scott Lawyer, Evan Hudson, wtf?).

MikeDamone

2009 defense. Who do you replace with yesterday's starters?
Te’o-Nesheim
Ta’amu
Elisara
Jones
Savannah
Butler
Foster
Aiyewa
Fellner
Trufant
Richardson

MikeDamone

TTJ said:

MikeDamone said:

Even without a top tier running back? Sark had locker and Polk.

Washington and Coleman will never be Polk/Sankey level backs. But they're good enough to win with. They certainly weren't the problem yesterday.

Polk and Sankey were two of the best backs in UW history. Even with shitty lines. They gave the offense something defenses had to always fear and respect. Coleman and Washington types are on the two and three deeps of every team in the pac 12.

doogsinparadise

Te’o-Nesheim -- Jamora
Ta’amu -- Shelton
Elisara -- Gaines/Qualls, lipo
Jones -- Te'o Nesheim
Savannah -- Shaq
Butler starts
Foster starts
Aiyewa starts
Fellner -- Baker
Trufant starts
Richardson -- Peters

So 5/11? Not a drastic difference.

MikeDamone said:

TTJ said:

MikeDamone said:

Even without a top tier running back? Sark had locker and Polk.

Washington and Coleman will never be Polk/Sankey level backs. But they're good enough to win with. They certainly weren't the problem yesterday.

Polk and Sankey were two of the best backs in UW history. Even with shitty lines. They gave the offense something defenses had to always fear and respect. Coleman and Washington types are on the two and three deeps of every team in the pac 12.

Agree, not crazy about Coleman behind this line.