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No shit, that's where the shitty "developer" part comes in that I'm not refuting. But Sark was just fine at recruiting QB's.MikeDamone said:
On field performance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>starsdnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
HTH
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So you're done sucking off Lindquist?sarktastic said:2 of those 3 FOURSTAR quarterbacks, are too shitty to score against Hawaii.
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Sark's failures to get decent QBs instead of Joe Montana and Derek Brown are hurting a bit. He left three guys who are or at least were good prospects. I agree that many teams find themselves in much worse shape, but it doesn't completely absolve him of those too fuckups.
Petersen has inherited a better roster than Sark did. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. It has more NFL prospects on it, I think, and better depth at nearly every position. Some of the starters are definitely a step down though. Donald Butler and Mason Foster would make this team better. Not many other defensive players from the 2009 starting unit would though.
I'd sure as hell take Jermaine Kearse, Jesus Lockner and Chris Polk on the offensive side.
The legend built around Sark's recruiting is the most frustrating part. He gets credit for getting visits and/or passing interest from USC, Cal and UCLA locks and for boosting his class rating with a ton of recruits ignoring that the average rating was pedestrian. His legend also ignores that he continually flushed the roster, including his own guys who people were jacking off to a year or two earlier, to make room for his big classes and that a huge number of his guys never showed up at UW or didn't stick long enough to ever play a game. -
I've never referred to myself as a journalist.MikeDamone said:
You call yourself a journalist?DerekJohnson said:
I'm not sure.MikeDamone said:
Did Trufant commit to willingham or Sark?DerekJohnson said:
You haven't really refuted my point. If Lindquist was the best option in a world without Miley Cyrus, it's the perfect position to illustrate that.dnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
(And don't forget, Keith Price was a Willingham guy).
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well, that explains the trust issues.DerekJohnson said:
You haven't really refuted my point. If Lindquist was the best option in a world without Miley Cyrus, it's the perfect position to illustrate that.dnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
(And don't forget, Keith Price was a Willingham guy).
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Causation or correlation?sarktastic said:
well, that explains the trust issues.DerekJohnson said:
You haven't really refuted my point. If Lindquist was the best option in a world without Miley Cyrus, it's the perfect position to illustrate that.dnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
(And don't forget, Keith Price was a Willingham guy).
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Abundance.MisterEm said:
Causation or correlation?sarktastic said:
well, that explains the trust issues.DerekJohnson said:
You haven't really refuted my point. If Lindquist was the best option in a world without Miley Cyrus, it's the perfect position to illustrate that.dnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
(And don't forget, Keith Price was a Willingham guy).
Ty left Sark with Jake. Sark left Peterman with Lindquist. Same thing.
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keith gilbertson could recruit to USC, so those anointing sark are ridiculous.
What I see with UW is that we have a QB who started for many years which left a void in our program. I'm not sure if some of you have noticed, but South carolina, Alabama, clemson among many others struggled with their transition from stud QB's leaving the program. Regardless of who is playing, it's rare a kid just walks in the door and crushes it a la Hill at TAM. Most of those kids were much more heralded than Lindy as well.
Lindy was a product of message board honks trying to convince themselves our QB situation was a whole lot better than it is. Cyler is the clear starter and wasn't available, and he had no chance over spring to solidify his standing. Now that's he's back, we'll see a different team. Maybe not dominate, but much better in the QB slot. It still remains to be seen if Cyler can actually turn into a QB which could make this a 9+win team. Nobody knows how the offseason(and missing it) stunted his development.
Of all the positions, QB is by far the least talented we have built up. But I would say Troy was the love child of many on dm.c and they forget you actually have to play the game, not just be highly rated by eklund and scout.com.
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downvoted for futtbucker.
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pretty sure Trufant committed to Washington.CheersWestDawg said:
SarkMikeDamone said:
Did Trufant commit to willingham or Sark?DerekJohnson said:
You haven't really refuted my point. If Lindquist was the best option in a world without Miley Cyrus, it's the perfect position to illustrate that.dnc said:
Agreed on developer, but he left three four star QB's with a combined ten seasons of eligibility. Sark wasn't the great recruiter he's hailed to be but QB is the wrong position to illustrate that.DerekJohnson said:Look at our our vulnerability at the QB position and then tell me what a great recruiter and developer Sark was.
(And don't forget, Keith Price was a Willingham guy).
