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Montlake Futures Interview - KJR/Softy
Tequilla
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1/23 Podcast - Hour 3
I'll follow-up with my thoughts summarizing the interview and my takeaways
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Please don't.
I heard it live driving up for a Kraken game last week. It’s worth a listen if you want to know where UW’s NIL stacks up.
Key information that I found in the interview:
My Key Takeaways and Observations
My Recommendations
My dad said they're spending 15 million this year.
No gay wannabe ChatGPT output needed.
Context matters
They are expecting $15M which includes half a year when the Athletic Department is able to pay (the $20.5M max for the AD at roughly 70% allocated to football
The quick math looks like:
Collective: $7.8M (solve)
AD: $7.2M ($20.5M x 70% x 0.5 years)
Total: $15M
For perspective, the estimates/rumors this year were that Oregon, Ohio St, etc. were spending $20M+ via their collectives
So yeah, UW is behind from a collective standpoint
POS was my idea. I’m lazy and more willing to donate money when I’m drunk. Everyone wins but my meager bank account.
All the collective numbers are bullshit anyways.
Fuck radio interviews.
Shut up about context.
Imagine spending time on this.
Wilner had a decent interview today on iheart … mentioned UW paying the $15 million/yr number to the players but if they want to compete tOSU, Michigan, Penn St plus Nike University - Montlake Futures will need to pony up an additional $10 million/yr on top of the $15 million players salary ($25million in total)
He made some good points about keeping the Apples Cup and that their fans that don’t want the game on principle are retarded. I’d rather watch the Apple Cup but dictate 1 game in Pullman equals one in HS and 1 neutral game 50/50 in the link or quest whatever it’s called these days and I’m sure many west side cougar fans would rather not drive 5 hours in each direction.
If Tequila mentioned any of this apologyies because I haven’t read his long post yet. Wilner also mentioned WSU got a home and home with Arizona and he expects the former pac schools including Cal/Stanford to schedule these games do to pac familiarity and west coast fans would mostly prefer rather than Eastern Michigan types. This maybe unpopular but I would like to see the Apple Cup not go poof.
One thing I remember being a frustration with past ADs and people in the NIL staff positions and collectives was being frustrated for not tapping into the corporate opportunities in Seattle enough. Can remember if that was here or in a Twitter group I'm in. I'm curious how that's going.
We're behind Ohio State's version of the 2023 UW football team?
Damn, I hope our 15m roster doesn't run into them this coming season.
Wait I thought Pat Chun's best attribute was that he's an amazing fundraiser?
The same thing was said about Sundress Jen
It's a good idea and they indirectly are already doing it with the tips that are going to local area booster clubs (i.e. youth football)
I'm not against keeping the Apple Cup but it's important that we also recognize the following:
How many times has Chun been public facing since taking the job? It doesn't seem like it's been often
Based on the interview I'd categorize that as progressing "not well"
The way I see it the value proposition that Montlake Futures (and honestly the AD as well) is making to raise funds is to pull at heart strings and kind of guilt trip people into donating
Why would a business (particularly a publicly traded one) be swayed by that type of value proposition? If there are business opportunities that would offer a positive ROI to a business they would be visible (see Adidas with Penix and Odunze)
The way I see it the value proposition that Montlake Futures (and honestly the AD as well) is making to raise funds is to pull at heart strings and kind of guilt trip people into donating
The AD is run by retards. Hope this helps. It's only been obvious
We have our very own guilt monger here Husky new york or whatever
People don't invest in shitshows. I wonder how many phone calls were made to keep DeBoer
The “pulling on heartstrings” approach is primarily pointed at fans. Trying to get Joe Blow grocery worker to pony up $25/mo to help fund players salaries. I’d highly doubt that this is the tact used for Fortune 500 companies. That said, whatever method they’re using for those businesses is not entirely successful and there should probably be a pivot in philosophy to leverage the big money that’s close at hand.
@HFNY true?
At any rate, as several of posters said before, it doesn't seem as though UW is as poor as the dawgman crowd would have you believe. Maybe we? just don't know how to spend it well.
I sure as hell hope Joe Blow grocery worker isn't paying into college football collectives, even $0.01. Those people need subsidies just to live within 50 miles of Seattle and need financial aid for their children to attend college. College football is an indulgence for those with discretionary income and time. If you're living paycheck to paycheck, you should be focused on other shit, like a second or better job, and not try and save the crumbling edifice that is the game of college football.
Ok, I'll TITTT. Rant over.
"With the freedom of player movement and lack of overall player investment in programs in general, the prior value propositions that supporters were asked to buy into through Athletic Departments (funding facilities, academic services, the education/growth journey of the athlete) are ever evolving and are changing … this has to be recognized by all"
This is a key point and something that needs to get fixed. If we're? investing in players then they need to commit to the institution and not get to move around willy nilly chasing bags and following coaches. Make these kids sign 2 to 4 years deals out of HS.