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I was right

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,973 Founders Club

There is a discussion on the tug but the politics are immaterial. What matters is that I was right. Called this before day 1

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,973 Founders Club

    I maintain legalization will kill the sport. I don't see this being rolled back. One more fix ought to do the trick

    Been right so far

  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 12,058

    The SEC is back!

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,894 Swaye's Wigwam

    Not going to happen. It's not "your" name image and likeness if someone else is getting paid for it

  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,001 Swaye's Wigwam

    I figured this was going to be what killed the open NIL in the first place and surprised it took this long for this. As much as I vehemently hate the Wild West NIL world, I worry about a situation where they can't find something that works for everyone so it tears down the sport. It could also just be the domino that gets the SEC and Big 10 football serious about finding a way to break off from the NCAA.

  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,947 Swaye's Wigwam

    Football and basketball will break off from the NCAA in a year or two

  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,208 Founders Club

    Are collectives illegal now? If not, how does any slice of money from the NCAA affect private citizens from continuing to donate to collectives to buy football rosters? This title 9 ruling only lowers the base salary of football players from the NCAA, it shouldn't have a bearing on how much they can get in "NIL" deals from private collectives for their talents, right? I haven't been following so if someone wants to fill me in that would be great.

    Also, UW has a smaller pool of athletes than most of the B10. No men's and women's hockey, field hockey, lacrosse or wrestling, no swim/dive. Wouldn't UW's teams across the board get a larger base salary?

    TIA

  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,001 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 17

    Seems pretty simple to more or less resolve the way it should have always been done. Take it back to where the collective basically is dispersed evenly. Want to donate? You're donating across the board, but then just open up NIL opportunities that are legitimate and have to be vetted by the NCAA. Amazon or Adidas or Beacon fucking Plumbing wants to do endorsements with Penix and Odunze, sure. Or Dr. Pepper wants Quinn Ewers in an ad, sure. Crypt keeper wants to pay someone's shitball dad and fake agent just to go to their program. Fuck off. Sanctions.

    The female athletes would do better with this than some might think as there are more female Olympic athlete types in the NCAA than you think and they are 100x better at being influencers.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,960 Standard Supporter
    edited January 17

    I'd do it the other way. You want to play at an NCAA institution? OK, your fee to play for Alma Mater State is x% of your taxable income which goes into a fund which pays all athletes equally (so you get a little rebate). Without the school logo, you ain't shit.

    Make as much fucking money as you want - just know that if you want to don a uniform within the NCAA, there's an admittance fee.

    Kids get charged up the ying yang to play on AAU and travel teams. Why not?

  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,234 Standard Supporter

    They'll just license the logos. What's interesting is how the kids that are not nfl or high level college players pivot.

    If they don't have a scholarship and are just an employee that's some major disruption for the kids that actually play school.

  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,896 Founders Club

    I side with ALL women

  • DoubleJDawgDoubleJDawg Member Posts: 636

    Totally agree on licensing - that's absolutely where it's ending up

    The scholarship can/should be a specific benefit which can end up in the packages of kids who want it — it could even be a future benefit (it's yours to use sometime within 5-10 years of end of playing career), it could be a partial/discounted scholarship, etc.

    That said, I know we love to marvel at the (university-established, price gouging level) "price" of a scholarship but the actual marginal cost of that a scholarship to a big state school is pretty negligible. I'm betting many/most serious big schools will consider that table stakes or a throw-in to pretty much every deal, particularly if they assume that not 100% of the players of the future will actually use the benefit (which they certainly won't, once they decouple "eligibility" from participation)

  • DoogmanRefundDoogmanRefund Member Posts: 958

    It really feels like they aren’t students at all anymore. It seems like it used to be a pain in the ass academically in getting transfers in. I can’t remember the last time I heard about a Vernon Adams who can’t math or a guy being unable to transfer because the school doesn’t have a PE program.

  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 17

    Why are football and basketball even attached to the universities any more? Who are we kidding? The world laughs at us. And I laugh at their laughing.

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