There's 100 instances of a Wayne Tinkle or Lorenzo Romar Contract where a 2 week or two year pop gets a massive deal in terms or years and money that most programs but only ones with the white whale boosters can get out which means your stuck with them, for every one Dabo Sweeney signing where it works out.
What exactly were the problems that I was warning about last year?
DL not having depth and being at risk to getting run over by a blue blood? We had a really good chance of losing to Texas last year if Sark didn't Sark and I don't think I need to remind what Michigan did to the defense.
I noted that the recruiting by DeBoer was lacking and not necessarily capitalizing on what he had done here to date … looks like that one was pretty much spot on
I noted that we were at risk of special teams flipping a game against us and notably in the punting game … we got away with it last year and it's cost us significantly this year
As for Indiana, that's what happens when you hire a coach early in the process, he's able to bring a bunch of his players from a very successful James Madison program, and reports are that Indiana has spent over $13M in NIL. To the extent that UW is able to spend $13M in NIL then sure that's a reasonable expectation to be a Top 10-15 team.
Don't underestimate the difference of having a QB like Rogers who has a decent but definitely not an above average arm in terms of arm strength … his best asset is his accuracy
He lacks the mobility to cover for the OL issues and the arm strength to fit balls into tight windows that are paramount in the red zone
I DISAGREE that DeBoer was not staying here long-term when he was hired. I do think he intended to. His wife and daughter didn't want to move anymore and he was getting a big time job after a career of moving around once he got to D-1. The daughter was a serious softball prospect and being able to go to UW appealed to her.
Once he blew past expectations, experienced our athletic department AND had the opportunity to move up to the very top of jobs available he went and took it.
AGREE that this year was going to be rough due to the timing of the coaching changes and the schedule. We're comparing how quick a rebuild can happen at a program to Indiana because we just lost to them, but they had the ability for their staff to work the December portal, which Fisch did not.
Fisch's gameday coaching has me ticked off and I expect him to show some shit there in a hurry, along with showing in season improvement. On this one:
The reality is that what happens with the end of the recruiting season and what we do in the transfer portal is more important than anything that happens over the next 4 games.
If we end up 4-8, which I think is more likely than 6-6 at this point, he is going to have a hell of a time getting the portal guys and regular recruits we need to get back to where we expect to be in 2025.
Great question. I just read through it looking for anything I could reference chronologically and late 2008 is the best I came up with. Let’s call it December 2008 which means we’re coming up on 16 years and that means @RaceBannon is still showing us how not to act and will probably continue to do so for another 80-90 years.
Thanks for showing those of us in a younger generation how not to act in 20-30 years when we are in your shoes.
Anyway…this isn’t some kind of well kept secret. DeBoer staying was going to require a lot of outside money that the AD wasn’t able to raise. Everyone knew it.
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Back to the Sark era, we’re perpetually a young team again…
There's 100 instances of a Wayne Tinkle or Lorenzo Romar Contract where a 2 week or two year pop gets a massive deal in terms or years and money that most programs but only ones with the white whale boosters can get out which means your stuck with them, for every one Dabo Sweeney signing where it works out.
And for those (including our head coach) who thinks the 22 million dollar salary cap solves NIL it does not it any way shape of form.
NIL will still be part of the game outside the cap.
What exactly were the problems that I was warning about last year?
DL not having depth and being at risk to getting run over by a blue blood? We had a really good chance of losing to Texas last year if Sark didn't Sark and I don't think I need to remind what Michigan did to the defense.
I noted that the recruiting by DeBoer was lacking and not necessarily capitalizing on what he had done here to date … looks like that one was pretty much spot on
I noted that we were at risk of special teams flipping a game against us and notably in the punting game … we got away with it last year and it's cost us significantly this year
As for Indiana, that's what happens when you hire a coach early in the process, he's able to bring a bunch of his players from a very successful James Madison program, and reports are that Indiana has spent over $13M in NIL. To the extent that UW is able to spend $13M in NIL then sure that's a reasonable expectation to be a Top 10-15 team.
Don't underestimate the difference of having a QB like Rogers who has a decent but definitely not an above average arm in terms of arm strength … his best asset is his accuracy
He lacks the mobility to cover for the OL issues and the arm strength to fit balls into tight windows that are paramount in the red zone
The only thing missing from all this is the circa 2003 / 2004 chestnut
"Coach X did not throw one block on the line yesterday" where X is Gilby or Fish
Fish will get another year, but that's all of this continues… no DJ comparisons forthcoming
Alabama has the #1 recruiting class
Finally actually reading Teq's OP, my comments:
I DISAGREE that DeBoer was not staying here long-term when he was hired. I do think he intended to. His wife and daughter didn't want to move anymore and he was getting a big time job after a career of moving around once he got to D-1. The daughter was a serious softball prospect and being able to go to UW appealed to her.
Once he blew past expectations, experienced our athletic department AND had the opportunity to move up to the very top of jobs available he went and took it.
AGREE that this year was going to be rough due to the timing of the coaching changes and the schedule. We're comparing how quick a rebuild can happen at a program to Indiana because we just lost to them, but they had the ability for their staff to work the December portal, which Fisch did not.
Fisch's gameday coaching has me ticked off and I expect him to show some shit there in a hurry, along with showing in season improvement. On this one:
The reality is that what happens with the end of the recruiting season and what we do in the transfer portal is more important than anything that happens over the next 4 games.
If we end up 4-8, which I think is more likely than 6-6 at this point, he is going to have a hell of a time getting the portal guys and regular recruits we need to get back to where we expect to be in 2025.
Also, take the gloves off was originally written when, 2008? 2009? It needs an anniversary celebration.
Great question. I just read through it looking for anything I could reference chronologically and late 2008 is the best I came up with. Let’s call it December 2008 which means we’re coming up on 16 years and that means @RaceBannon is still showing us how not to act and will probably continue to do so for another 80-90 years.
Thanks for showing those of us in a younger generation how not to act in 20-30 years when we are in your shoes.
UW AD finances are a mess. DeBoer was never coming back.
The face farter ☝️☝️ always finds the right time to come fart in our faces doesn’t he?
Fuck off and enjoy your special year guy.👌👌
doog poty
Maybe even the whole decade
face farter?
Anyway…this isn’t some kind of well kept secret. DeBoer staying was going to require a lot of outside money that the AD wasn’t able to raise. Everyone knew it.
it is what it is.
Until UW is able to find its own Phil Knight, it will be a second-fiddle program.
Case closed.
I can't possible fit all that on a beer goblet
UW is always a program that has highs and lows. Consistency with the highs is what should be strived for.
A 4-4 effort isn't exactly the apocalypse following the biggest rebuild in the history of the program.
Beat the soft LA schools at home where we play much better. Then BONEM
Consistency with the highs will not be achieved without an AD that is funded like a top-tier program's AD should be.
I have no faith that Pat Chun is the person to lead the AD.
I have no faith that Jedd Fisch is good enough to lead the football program.
4-4 may not be the apocalypse, but I'm pretty sure I see Jesus warming up in the bullpen.
UW was top 25 with a dogshit Pac 12 contract. They are in the B1G now and funding will increase, B1G time
UW got absolutely ass fucked by how and when DeBoer left the program.
Fisch may or may not be the guy, same with Chun.
Water some say, is wet