What changes would you make to the offense
Short of portaling in a few OL, what changes would you like to see? Like UW, USC doesn't play as well on the road so we(?) have that going for us.
I thought it was strange that the offense didn't target Latu that much in the passing game (generally easier to get the ball out faster to TEs). Same for running backs.
And if you thought UW's pass rush was anemic with only 14 sacks, USC is even worse with 12.
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On the podcast today I referenced November 1985 when Chris Chandler replaced Hugh Millen at QB and the Huskies added the T-formation option play into the offense, to good effect. I postulated that Demond Williams start and then have Coleman and Mohammad play simultaneously in the backfield, and add the option wrinkle into the mix. My idea was met with the sound of crickets by my co-hosts, but I stand by the idea as a good one.
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start Demond. I’m not sure it’ll make the offense better but at least we’ll find out more about Demond. It’ll be good to know if we should already write off 2025 or not
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Think about it from the opponent's pov. Playing UW I would be so frustrated if UW ran Coleman and Muhammed all day. Jackson sweeps. Latu middle. And the odd pop to Boston would be a killer.
Instead Fisch is trying to have Rogers, Davis and the tackles carry the load
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Texas AM pulled their starter and put in the runner and scored TDs on 4 straight possessions last night
The guy changed the whole game
I don't think Williams is as fast but the aggies threw two passes
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First, If Rogers is the QB, stop with the slow-developing pass plays. This OL sucks and he lacks the skill and judgement to evade the rush and find the right WR or otherwise make a play.
The exception might be some play-action if the run game is working well.
I would run Mohammed more.
I would have Demond play more in the red zone. He has two red zone TDs the last couple weeks.
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let Carroll try a few calls from the 35 yard to goal since what Fisch is doing clearly is not working.
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What do these numbers represent in UW's losses and what could the coaches do about them?
14 75 WSU
16 148 RUT
9 80 IWA
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I am in the camp of many that Fisch could do alot better, the talent he has is good enough to win games as long as the scheme suits his players, this is where there is an obvious disconnect.
I am not in the FireFisch camp yet, with more development and continuity and a dual threat QB, things may look a lot different and a lot better quickly. I am reserving further judgment until Demond takes over. If he is good, it will rise the tide of the entire program
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maybe not as fast but the TD he scored against Hosier showed burst. He can run.
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I'd be open to it, or at least playing Demond every other series. If McCree is still out, it would make even more sense.
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I'd love to see them in a 40 yard sprint. The Texas A&M guy likely has a higher top end speed with Demond having better acceleration.
Towards the bottom here, it has details on how Demond has sprinters speed:
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there is no reason whatsoever to let Rogers take another snap — unless Williams gets hurt.
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Penn State’s starter got hurt just before halftime. He led 1 TD drive.
the running QB replacement scored 2 TDs in the second half. Far more afraid of that guy against us than Allar the starter -
To paraphrase John McKay, The Throbber would like to see the offense executed.
Not a call for genocide.
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The OL challenges make more Williams a smart play as defenses have tended to play less aggressive when he's in the game knowing that the potential for chunk run plays is significantly higher
USC is not a physical team at the LOS and there's going to be opportunity to run the ball on them
If they have injuries to their DBs again this week then there will be opportunities in the passing game
UW was probably closer to a win in Indiana than many think … problem is that they don't have the margin of error in them to be able to beat a good team on the road with mistakes
Being home will help a lot … this should be one of the better offensive games of the season for UW
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i would start with changing the play caller.
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I would like to see more pre-snap motion to get the defense reacting more. This offense is just very vanilla looking, IMO.
Play the dual threat QB who may not actually be able to hit the broad side of a barn beyond 10 yards, but neither can Rogers.
We? went from the penthouse to the outhouse at QB.
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we are in a rebuild, scrap the 1 year rental and start building for the future.
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I don't think Lan Danning is very concerned about UW at all
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Start Demond. Make Will Rogers the holder. Win win.
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I bet Fisch still wants to make a bowl and may have some sort of deal with Rogers so Rogers will likely still start. But that's not to say Demond won't play more. Maybe Demond will play every 3rd series. I imagine Rogers has NFL aspirations and is desperate to redeem himself after the Indiana game.
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he might be good but he’s not great. He doesn’t get “it” like the fat fuck dutchmen or even the Hoosier coach. He has enough talent to be better than this so for that FUCK HIM and not the kids… for once.
it’s going to take him tim which is great for him because he picked the right school that doesn’t give a fuck.
For us, inpatient pricks, the off season and the opportunity for the off-season natty couldn’t come quick enough.
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I get this but I’m back in fuck the kids mode. This is no longer college athletics. This is a multibillion dollars industry that just happens to involve schools. Fish will do the right thing, because he’s a bitch and then the negative recruiting that would come from it, but sitting Roger’s ass and playing Desmond the rest of the way is what the business dictates.
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My theory is that the offense is lacking leadership. Coaches fault? Players fault? Both? Probably both. I'm not convinced that this team is devoid of talent on offense, but I don't see anyone with the guts and drive to take over a game. Denzel Boston pulled himself out after a catch on a crucial drive when his team was behind. Will Rogers continues to NOT throw a fit when he's pulled mid drive for a freshman QB. The OL appears to have no anger about being bullied around and letting their QB get hit.
The offense needs a leader to step up, and Fisch needs to stop coaching for next year. We have the talent to win more now, but he's too focused on rotating OL and developing freshman to care.
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Every college player has NFL aspirations. Rogers may get lucky and be a practice squad guy for a few years, but if he thinks he's gonna make it in the NFL with that noodle arm and slow-processor of a brain, he's even dumber than I think.
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True. The best comp I can think of is Jake Browning but with less mobility and competitive fire.
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Yeah, as sad as it is to say, Browning was a notch above Rogers in pretty much every way.
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I think this would work for a game or two, simply do to the lack of film available to help the opponent scheme. But long term, these things don't work. But with only a handful of games left, fuck it.
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Get on back to The Refuge
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When times are good it's not as entertaining over there.
