Things are starting to change.
Bendintheriver
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I am truly skeptical about this election. Rats cheated on the last one (blocking Conservative voices on social media, lying to Americans when they published the 51 spy leaders claiming the laptop was Russian disinformation, bugging Trumps campaign HQ, breaking state election laws and sending out millions of ballots, kicking Reps out of polling positions and counting without spotters, google et al erasing any mention of Hunters laptop, not one come from behind victory in any state for Trump and all come from behind victories went for biden, etc) but I am sensing some momentum for Trump. I watch polling data really closely and things are shifting. Will it be enough to get past the cheating by democrats? I am still skeptical. However, the timing is perfect for momentum shifts is in favor of Trump.
The VP debate has had an effect on polling data. Especially the polls that are serious and professional in their craft. The rat data that the media pumps out is not to be trusted. Their stats, questions and methods are so shoddy that I wouldn't trust them to tell the accurate truth even if they did predictive polling AFTER the election.
I watched the whole debate the day after. Like democrat polling, the set up was a joke. Another 1 against 3 debacle that no one in this country should be proud of, even though this type of 3rd world politics is perfectly acceptable to democrats. JD had a great night but more importantly he was able to be himself and speak directly to the people without Americans having to see the nasty snippets that the rat media mockup and distribute. IN polls that matter, he is being viewed as a viable Presidential candidate in 4 years where neither Headboard or her idiotic socialist running mate are anymore, and that is a huge find in polls that matter and are dealing with that particular subject matter. Another thing that polling showed was that JD was looked upon as a stabilizing force in a Trump White House. The data is saying that more people are interested in that ticket because they see JD as a counter to Trumps emotional, off the cuff, business leader style of leadership. A good blend between the two that people find attractive.
There is more to the data that is being collected but I thought those two points were particularly interesting so I thought I would share.
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Trump/Vance >>>>>> Trump/Pence
I know we have to get through 2024 first and survive long enough to see 2028 but heard an intriguing thought today
2028 DeSantis v. Vance
That's Bama v Georgia
What pile of shit will the democrats force their voters to swallow?
Vance had a great debate. DeSantis had a another great week governing. He's doing more for neighboring states than the feds. Because he had Florida prepared
I can't see MAGA ever embracing DeSantis as THE guy. And the GOP is now a MAGA party.
Dick Cheney is endorsing Kamala for God's sake.
Vance is more likeable. Ron had a problem the more primary voters saw him
Agree, it sets up well... the question is csn Trump beat the democratic machine... he needs to be up at least 5 points imo.
vance is great... Pence is meh....
He had a problem when the Bush deepstate got behind him. Fuck Bush, Fuck Cheney and fuck the uniparty CONs.
Ok.
Is that an intelligent response?
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thanks for the added value.
DeSantis needs to distance himself from the Bush-Cheney UniParty donors in 2028 if he wants to survive a primary battle against Vance, if things work out that way. He embraced them this time and was not being himself as he was parroting the words of others. His flip-flop on Ukraine was a
When he lost as a serious challenger to Trump.
Let Haley be the globalist she is as their primary candidate. She’ll get Jebbed out in no time.
For Mello, that’s a good as it gets for him as a response.
To be fair Trump getting 91 charges dropped on him revived his campaign and DeSantis botched the response as well as getting tainted by bush
I like @RaceBannon 's analogy …. "2028 DeSantis v Vance that's Bama v Georgia". DeSantis has been one of the most effective governors any state has had in the past 50+ years. He is a proven executive. Vance is arguabley the more skilled politician. Both men are veterans, DeSantis as a Naval Officer, Vance as an enlisted Marine. They are both highly intelligent and highly educated, DeSantis Yale (BA) and Harvard (JD), Vance Yale (JD). Both men are geniune, a trait badly needed in today's poltical scene. Either would make an excellent choice for president in 2028.
Perfect scenario is that Vance is DeSantis VP then he takes over after 8 years... since Vance is so young.
NFW. RD checked in his man card and gave it to the Bush/Cheney wing of the deepstate.
Anyone Trump or currently hitched to Trump is toast in 2024, 2026, and 2028, on average, just like always. SSDD.
Sucks to suck.
I’ve got all the screen shots I need.
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Odd that our bored democrats have no interest in whatever piece of shit they are told to support in 28
TDS is a helluva drug.
Walz looks great as the future of the party!