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The Late Johnie Kirton and the Story of his Senior Season

Hardcore_HuskyHardcore_Husky Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 304 Swaye's Wigwam
edited July 2013 in Tug Tavern

imageThe Late Johnie Kirton and the Story of his Senior Season

This is an excerpt from the book Bow Down to Willingham, and features the chapter "Apocalypse", which details UW's tortured 2008 season and which was also the senior year for the late Johnie Kirton.

Read the full story here


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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,789 Founders Club
    This belongs on Unleashed
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2013
    I don't have a problem with the story or its content. Im just upset its on the front page. But I'm not upset.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,789 Founders Club
    If you saw what I deal with daily you'd know I wasn't upset. Do you want to answer my phone for a day?
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  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,767 Swaye's Wigwam
    Great write-up.....I really had no idea on the specifics of this....it makes me want to cry.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Guy was a beast in high school. One of those guys had he came here during the James era would have been a Husky legend. Instead he was one of many players who didn't reach their potential due to their coaching job of Tyrone Willingham.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Is it available in paperback?
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  • volcanodawgvolcanodawg Member Posts: 282
    i'm still in complete shock that shit happened to Washington (RIP). fuck
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  • fauxdawgmanfauxdawgman Member Posts: 218
    I'm going to move this to the vent board.
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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size
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  • PopeHarvPopeHarv Member Posts: 92
    God. That was glorious.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,051 Founders Club
    edited July 2013
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,051 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

    Did he "carve out a role for himself", or was he finally used properly?
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    DerekJohnson said:

    I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.

    That prediction was obviously a swing for the fences prediction. I mean how many times does a WR win offensive player of the year? Let alone on a team who at best was finishing 4th or 5th. I mean that was when USC was going through their run plus Oregon was decent as was Cal. ASU in 2007 just got Erickson so everyone expected them to be good as well.

    There is no way you actually believed that.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

    Did he "carve out a role for himself", or was he finally used properly?

    Good point. I would lean more to the finally used properly side.
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

    Did he "carve out a role for himself", or was he finally used properly?
    He was UW's best WR for two seasons. You really think he would have made a bigger impact at FB/HB?

    In a vacuum, sure, he's clearly better suited for that role. But UW had a serious lack of playmakers back then. Ty was an idiot but playing Reese at WR was not one of his bad decisions, IMO.

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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,051 Founders Club
    HillsboroDuck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

    Did he "carve out a role for himself", or was he finally used properly?
    He was UW's best WR for two seasons. You really think he would have made a bigger impact at FB/HB?

    In a vacuum, sure, he's clearly better suited for that role. But UW had a serious lack of playmakers back then. Ty was an idiot but playing Reese at WR was not one of his bad decisions, IMO.

    I never said playing him at WR was a problem. But allowing him to be woefully out of shape from our inadequate training program combined with incredibly inept assistant coaches teaching him the position led to him being not maximizing his potential to say the least.
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  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,314 Founders Club
    Over the past 10-12 years, poor training and coaching have led to a great number of Huskies not maximizing their potential. These things were just glaringly bad under Tyrone. What that jackass did to the program and many individual players is downright shameful, as was Emmert's inaction. Emmert could have spared them from this, but he lacked (and continues to lack) the courage to do the right thing. Very sad era.
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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    DerekJohnson said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Houhusky said:

    while talking about players who never reached their potential can we talk more about Marcel Reece... the guy is incredibly athletic for his size

    At UW I remember fans hating him in 2007 cause he was a slow WR who couldn't catch. Now he's a pro bowl full back. Great player evaluation as always there Ty.
    I don't remember anybody "hating" on him. He was just lost in the crowd... and I remember thinking "why isn't this guy a superstar?" I actually predicted to a friend that Reece would be the Pac-10 offensive player of the year for 2007.
    Agree. I don't remember anyone hating on him. He was easily our best WR, but there were fans who wanted more from him, myself included. He was a monster, but he did have average (at best) hands. There is a reason he is a FB/H-Back in the NFL. I'm glad he has carved out a role for himself and became a very good player.

    Did he "carve out a role for himself", or was he finally used properly?
    He was UW's best WR for two seasons. You really think he would have made a bigger impact at FB/HB?

    In a vacuum, sure, he's clearly better suited for that role. But UW had a serious lack of playmakers back then. Ty was an idiot but playing Reese at WR was not one of his bad decisions, IMO.

    I never said playing him at WR was a problem. But allowing him to be woefully out of shape from our inadequate training program combined with incredibly inept assistant coaches teaching him the position led to him being not maximizing his potential to say the least.
    In that case, certainly.

    Ty lacked bullets on the sideline and in his brain, not so much on the roster.

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