Neuheisel warns against new playoff system

AtomicPiss

latimes.com/sports/ucla/uclanow/la-sp-ucla-neuheisel-warns-against-playoff-20140821-story.html

RoadDawg55

Four teams isn't enough. The outrage over someone getting left out will be stronger than ever. I would never expect the NCAA or BCS to do the smart thing.

8 teams would be okay, but the FCS has it right. Just copy their playoffs and make it 16 teams. Take out one or even two shitty non conference games and make it happen.

Southerndawg

RoadDawg55 said:

Four teams isn't enough. The outrage over someone getting left out will be stronger than ever. I would never expect the NCAA or BCS to do the smart thing.

8 teams would be okay, but the FCS has it right. Just copy their playoffs and make it 16 teams. Take out one or even two shitty non conference games and make it happen.

This. Take all FBS conference champions, the best independent, and four at large bids chosen by committee. This would truly guarantee access to all conferences and nearly guarantee that the best team gets in. As it sits, it still comes down to a beauty contest.

SpoonieLuv

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

RoadDawg55

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

That's because those bowls should be the NIT. It's old, it's dated. Nobody cares about the non BCS Bowls anyways. Those bowls are already the NIT. When LSU or Oklahoma or Texas A&M are in the Peach Bowl or the Gator Bowl, their fans already feel like it's the NIT. If anything, a 16 team playoff would make more games matter, not less. Traditionalists will hate it, but tradition has hardly mattered for awhile now.

Southerndawg

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

I agree with this. In fact I think one could argue that the BCS devalued the traditional major bowls, turning them into consolation prizes, at least to some degree. The problem is that, if the goal is to determine the best team, they're really not much closer to that goal with a four team playoff.

Personally, I'd be fine with seeing this system either evolve into a real playoff or devolve into the old bowl system with all the major bowls played on New Years Day. The former essentially achieves the goal of determining a true champion, the latter restores the relevance of the major bowls and retains the controversy over "who's best", which has been a fun part of college football. In my opinion either is preferable to status quo.

Swaye

RoadDawg55 said:

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

That's because those bowls should be the NIT. It's old, it's dated. Nobody cares about the non BCS Bowls anyways. Those bowls are already the NIT. When LSU or Oklahoma or Texas A&M are in the Peach Bowl or the Gator Bowl, their fans already feel like it's the NIT. If anything, a 16 team playoff would make more games matter, not less. Traditionalists will hate it, but tradition has hardly mattered for awhile now.

This.

MikeDamone

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

There won't be bowls. Anyone who thinks they will coexist in a real playoff system is an idiot. Teams that don't get into the playoff still might go to bowls, but the big bowls won't resemble anything thine they are now.

Mosster47

All of the bowl games have already been knocked down a peg.

You can't have neutral site playoffs because the fans simply won't support it in person.

Make four regional conferences with North and South divisions. The winners of each division are a Top 8 seed. Have conference championship games for traditions sake and to determine the #1 seeds of each four team pod. Have a committee to select the Bottom 8. The higher seed is the home team.

Simple, regional, and finishes nationally. The only reason this isn't happening already is money has to change hands.

PurpleJ

What mosster said, except I would throw in promotion/relegation and have only 64 teams in the top division. 16 teams in each region. Drop the bottom 25% each year, and replace them with the teams from the lower division. You'd get a great playoff, definite champion, and no dreck games.

Mosster47

PurpleJ said:

What mosster said, except I would throw in promotion/relegation and have only 64 teams in the top division. 16 teams in each region. Drop the bottom 25% each year, and replace them with the teams from the lower division. You'd get a great playoff, definite champion, and no dreck games.

This too, it would make the D-1AA playoff much better quality. Having 8 teams in each division would cure the dreck and send Vandy, Kentucky, Syracuse, and the rest of those shit stains down to a level where they can compete.

I wouldn't make relegation a percentage, just the bottom team from each division. Cal would still be too high in D-1AA, so more like D-3 for them. Then take the top two D-1AA teams from each region and add them to the D-1A conferences.

Corporations could still sponsor the playoff games.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

RoadDawg55 said:

Four teams isn't enough. The outrage over someone getting left out will be stronger than ever. I would never expect the NCAA or BCS to do the smart thing.

8 teams would be okay, but the FCS has it right. Just copy their playoffs and make it 16 teams. Take out one or even two shitty non conference games and make it happen.

I kind of agree but people always bitch about teams getting left out. There are still complaints about teams 69 (ROFL) and 70 in the basketball tournament.

If it went to 16, the bowls would become totally irrelevant. Most of the ones named after corporate chicken wing joints, chain restaurants, pizza joints, hunger/nuts already are, but the rose, orange, sugar, cotton, Fiesta & a few others are worth saving. Besides, If it were 16, the SEC would weasel its way into five or six slots.

TierbsHsotBoobs

MikeDamone said:

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

There won't be bowls. Anyone who thinks they will coexist in a real playoff system is an idiot. Teams that don't get into the playoff still might go to bowls, but the big bowls won't resemble anything thine they are now.

The big bowls died in 1998. Hope this helps.

AEB

8 is the right number. 4 New Year's Eve and day games linked with the major bowls. You can still have the Other bowls. They're TV content anyways so they're not going away and there'll be a bid for them from ESPN.

PurpleJ

Fuck. Tradition.

I want the best entertainment value.

AtomicPiss

PurpleJ said:

Fuck. Tradition.

I want the best entertainment value.

PurpleJ

Leave the postin to the people Putin rofl bff buddy :x

RaceBannon

You can't take games (revenue) away from every team so 16 can be in a playoff. UW will play 16 games this year to win the natty.ILTCITN

The winner and loser of a 16 game playoff play 4 more games. With a CCG and a 12 game season that's 17 games.

Why don't you fucks watch the NFL like the rest of the white trash gaybobs and leave college ball alone.

Who gives a fuck about a "real" champion besides a bunch of hipster douche bag Gen X faggots?

Nice talking to you duck fan. Headin to bed. Fuck off

ThomasFremont

Save the fresh bowls!

Mosster47

RaceBannon said:

You can't take games (revenue) away from every team so 16 can be in a playoff. UW will play 16 games this year to win the natty.ILTCITN

The winner and loser of a 16 game playoff play 4 more games. With a CCG and a 12 game season that's 17 games.

Why don't you fucks watch the NFL like the rest of the white trash gaybobs and leave college ball alone.

Who gives a fuck about a "real" champion besides a bunch of hipster douche bag Gen X faggots?

Nice talking to you duck fan. Headin to bed. Fuck off

Someone has the crud again.

MikeDamone

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

MikeDamone said:

SpoonieLuv said:

The more teams you add to the playoffs the more it dilutes the bowl system. I don't think they can coexist without sizable controversies every year. I'm fairly convinced that they will take on this feel anyways with just four teams after a few seasons of intense playoff buildup and coverage. 16 teams would make a for a good playoff bracket but the remainder bowls would have an NIT feel to them.

There won't be bowls. Anyone who thinks they will coexist in a real playoff system is an idiot. Teams that don't get into the playoff still might go to bowls, but the big bowls won't resemble anything thine they are now.

The big bowls died in 1998. Hope this helps.

You know what I mean. Smart ass.