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US economy: 3.3 shocking 4th quarter growth!!!

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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,974 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    Bob_C said:

    The year 2023 grew 2.5% vs the killer 1.9% growth in 2022 vs 2021. Also, government spending as a % of GDP grew 3.5% vs 2022. It's booming all right.

    Against the headwinds of the increased interest rates that was design to slow down the growth of the US economy, those numbers are blistering. Trump could barely pull those numbers with near zero interest rates.
    Jesus christ.


    Watching the Chinese economy implode and saying, "Hold my beer."

    Can't wait for HuskyBuck to tell us we don't know enough about MMT.
    Great call.

    He learned everything you need to know about MMT from MSNBC. All you need to know in one sound bite.

  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,878 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 25
    Lol….I effing love it…..”Real Americans” cheer against America when good economic news comes out because it doesn’t match their narrative.

    Man it must hurt. And PS, I get my news from Fox Business News! Look at the link I used! Some real geniuses in here, maybe that explains why their finances aren’t in order lolololol.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,943 Founders Club
    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all
  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,878 Swaye's Wigwam

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Yes, many of us were. You weren't here hth.

    Lots of us didn't like the Trump checks either.



    What percentage of the 3.3% growth was the private sector as opposed to government spending increases made with money borrowed from future growth?
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,605 Swaye's Wigwam
    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Clinton never actually ran a true surplus. He borrowed from social security to show a fake surplus. It was still a good performance though relatively speaking.
  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,878 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Clinton never actually ran a true surplus. He borrowed from social security to show a fake surplus. It was still a good performance though relatively speaking.
    Regardless, even if you account for that then he came the closest to running that surplus but that wasn’t the point of my comment.

    Calling out Biden now for deficit spending is disingenuous because everyone runs deficits. Trump did worse damage if that irritates you now.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,605 Swaye's Wigwam
    HuskyBuck said:

    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Clinton never actually ran a true surplus. He borrowed from social security to show a fake surplus. It was still a good performance though relatively speaking.
    Regardless, even if you account for that then he came the closest to running that surplus but that wasn’t the point of my comment.

    Calling out Biden now for deficit spending is disingenuous because everyone runs deficits. Trump did worse damage if that irritates you now.
    Don't look at me, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,375 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Clinton never actually ran a true surplus. He borrowed from social security to show a fake surplus. It was still a good performance though relatively speaking.
    Clinton also had to deal with an actual fiscal conservative republican speaker of the House in Newt.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,018 Founders Club
    Buck can't connect the Reagan revolution to the good Clinton economy which continued the growth

    W started two wars and then Obama brought the shitty policies that Biden brought back

    Trump had a better economy.

    And a growing lead daily
  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,878 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 25
    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    Bob_C said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    Clinton never actually ran a true surplus. He borrowed from social security to show a fake surplus. It was still a good performance though relatively speaking.
    Regardless, even if you account for that then he came the closest to running that surplus but that wasn’t the point of my comment.

    Calling out Biden now for deficit spending is disingenuous because everyone runs deficits. Trump did worse damage if that irritates you now.
    Don't look at me, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012.
    I respect that. The one thing I respect about Ron Paul is that he stuck to his guns. He didn’t dance on both sides of the fence when it suited him.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,943 Founders Club
    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    I'm always pissed off
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,974 Founders Club

    Buck can't connect the Reagan revolution to the good Clinton economy which continued the growth

    W started two wars and then Obama brought the shitty policies that Biden brought back

    Trump had a better economy.

    And a growing lead daily

    People forget Obama started 7 wars. People forget that.

    Nobel Peace Prize indeed.

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,972
    I don’t see how Biden can brag about the economy when most people are pretty down on their personal situation and cost of living

    Feels like a mistake
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    HuskyBuck said:

    Sledog said:

    HuskyBuck said:

    The fourth-quarter data provided more evidence that the recovery remains on solid footing. Consumer spending, the bedrock of the U.S. economy, grew at a 2.8 percent annual rate, only modestly slower than the prior quarter. The housing sector, which was battered by high interest rates in 2022 and early 2023, grew modestly for the second quarter in a row. Businesses stepped up their investment on equipment. Personal income rose faster than prices as the strong job market continued to benefit workers.

    Gotta admit, watching you guys try to spin doctor this information has been more entertaining than the Barbenheimer double header!!!

    Always great when consumer spending increases less than the inflation rate. Booming I say!
    You gotta excuse SheDog……I already knew the guy can barely read.

    Are you just the alt of @HHusky, or only his lover?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    HuskyBuck said:

    33 trillion in debt and still going, 1.375 trillion deficit in '22, but throw money at Ukraine and Israel

    inflation at 9.1 percent not long ago

    10 million illegals, I mean "asylum seekers" in 3 years

    nothing to be critical of at all

    Deficits are a problem, no question about it. I 100% agree with you. But why are you calling it out now? Every single president in my lifetime has run a deficit minus Clinton for 2 years.

    You must have been REALLY pissed off during the Trump years then? Right Bill? You're not a hypocrite are you?
    So you practice whataboutism, while complaining about others doing it.

    Wow. @HuskyBitch is a Hypocrite, too. Whaddayaknow?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,018 Founders Club

    Haven’t been to the tug in awhile. Is @HuskyBuck on the same level as @HHusky in faggotry?

    Seems like she might even have taken the lead.

    It was nice having football dominate the thoughts
  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 4,241
    Who could imagine that the federal government pumping hundreds of billions into the economy might lead to minimal growth?

    With the taxpayer money being spent in government work projects, 10% GDP should be the expectation because this is unsustainable. Almost hope Biden wins so it will exacerbate the upcoming chaos and the fat, happy Democrats dependent on their government salaries/retirements/contracts will be blindsided by it.
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