Undocumented Workers?

HFNY

Screw the verbal jujitsu that libs falling over themselves use trying to win votes (by undermining the rule of law), these guys are straight up illegal alien murderers:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719011/I-not-rest-worthless-pieces-s-t-dead-Anguished-vow-mother-watched-duty-Border-Patrol-son-gunned-two-illegal-immigrants-deported-SIX-times-before.html

I wonder what Nancy Pelosi would say about this?

oregonblitzkrieg

HFNY said:

I wonder what Nancy Pelosi would say about this?

That the cartels told her that those two illegal immigrants were humanitarian workers.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

As a gay, Hispanic fmr. co-worker said ($75,000?), these cartel members don't have much respect for human life.

PurpleJ

Excuse me...

illegal alien murderer-Americans

Check your privilege.

MikeDamone

As long as they don't kill me then I don't care

ThomasFremont

MikeDamone said:

As long as they don't kill me then I don't care

NIMBY!

greenblood

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Baphomet

All of my employees are documented... in one way or another.

oregonblitzkrieg

Baphomet said:

All of my employees are documented... in one way or another.

Your employees wouldn't exactly be able to escape notice. Baal, Belial, Astaroth, etc.

HFNY

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

oregonblitzkrieg

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

PurpleJ

Annex Mexico

HFNY

Neither was the Marshall Plan but it was the right thing to do. Some of the countries to our south are shit-shows and preventative actions are usually better than addressing it belatedly on our own soil. It's already going to cost us a few billion just to deal with this surge of illegal kids from Central America.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

oregonblitzkrieg

HFNY said:

Neither was the Marshall Plan but it was the right thing to do. Some of the countries to our south are shit-shows and preventative actions are usually better than addressing it belatedly on our own soil. It's already going to cost us a few billion just to deal with this surge of illegal kids from Central America.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

There is one simple solution but the assholes in government are too PC to do it. Build a giant wall from California to Texas. This is what people do to their individual properties to keep their neighbors out.

greenblood

HFNY said:

Neither was the Marshall Plan but it was the right thing to do. Some of the countries to our south are shit-shows and preventative actions are usually better than addressing it belatedly on our own soil. It's already going to cost us a few billion just to deal with this surge of illegal kids from Central America.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

If you think dealing with an influx of new occupants is expensive, have you even looked at how much it would cost to build a third world country's economy that's nearly the same size as us? Now try and do that, while we are currently dealing with a devaluing dollar, and a shrinking middle class.

MikeDamone

Illegal immigration is good for the immigrants and the U.S. ...as long as it remains illegal.

We know this and their is a bipartisan understanding of this. That is why nothing changes and the low information voters are outraged.

greenblood

MikeDamone said:

Illegal immigration is good for the immigrants and the U.S. ...as long as it remains illegal.

We know this and their is a bipartisan understanding of this. That is why nothing changes and the low information voters are outraged.

Which is why this entire immigration debate is nothing more than a vote grab. Both parties know mass citizenship of illegal immigrants will bankrupt social security and our country, as would the stopping all together of illegal workers. The left speaks out for citizenship for vote position, and the right speaks out for total deportation and tighter border control for vote position. In the end, both sides get exactly what they want: Support from their extremist supporters while acting like they are trying to do something, but really not.

HFNY

I just read that we need another $40 billion for the border. That's expensive.

Anyway, I wasn't saying we need to build another country's economy on our own but why isn't the President using his soap-box to demand more reform and change in Mexico and the Central American countries? I'm sure we could chip in some billions while sending advisors to get their own countries in order but our lead-from-behind President is too worried to ask more of Latinos because of the mid-terms coming up and it's easier for him to pander as usual. Maybe he will get some balls when there are no more elections as he is the de-facto head of the Democratic Party.

greenblood said:

HFNY said:

Neither was the Marshall Plan but it was the right thing to do. Some of the countries to our south are shit-shows and preventative actions are usually better than addressing it belatedly on our own soil. It's already going to cost us a few billion just to deal with this surge of illegal kids from Central America.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

If you think dealing with an influx of new occupants is expensive, have you even looked at how much it would cost to build a third world country's economy that's nearly the same size as us? Now try and do that, while we are currently dealing with a devaluing dollar, and a shrinking middle class.

oregonblitzkrieg

MikeDamone said:

Illegal immigration is good for the immigrants and the U.S. ...as long as it remains illegal.

Links or this is just your opinion. I'd like to know why this shit is good for the US. Not buying it.

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

MikeDamone said:

Illegal immigration is good for the immigrants and the U.S. ...as long as it remains illegal.

Links or this is just your opinion. I'd like to know why this shit is good for the US. Not buying it.

I know you don't buy it. It's because you react to conventional wisdom as filtered through the media and put out there by the political parties to further an agenda and get votes. This a pattern with you on most issues I have seen you take on here. Hopefully you can break out of that mode someday and analyze information a bit deeper and more thoughtfully.

0055d26.netsolhost.com/friedman/pdfs/other_commentary/BP.1978.2.pdf

oregonblitzkrieg

HFNY said:

I just read that we need another $40 billion for the border. That's expensive.

I'm sure we could chip in some billions while sending advisors to get their own countries in order but our lead-from-behind President is too worried to ask more of Latinos because of the mid-terms coming up and it's easier for him to pander as usual. Maybe he will get some balls when there are no more elections as he is the de-facto head of the Democratic Party.

greenblood said:

HFNY said:

Neither was the Marshall Plan but it was the right thing to do. Some of the countries to our south are shit-shows and preventative actions are usually better than addressing it belatedly on our own soil. It's already going to cost us a few billion just to deal with this surge of illegal kids from Central America.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HFNY said:

Some good points and I simply want a bipartisan solution of addressing the border security while figuring out how to help some of these countries become more desirable so that their citizens actually stay in them unless they want to follow the proper avenue towards becoming legal residents (and eventually American citizens).

greenblood said:

I hate the word undocumented workers. The only accepted terms are illegal aliens or illegal occupants. Undocumented workers is a term people like OZONE created to cope with their guilt.

Also, I agree with Damone. I really don't care, some illegal occupants are good and mind their own damn business, while some are bad. Water is wet.

Illegal occupants are what is keeping social security afloat right now, and as long as that is the case, the left will continue to act like they want to provide mass citizenship to illegals but will never grant it. Same lipstick, different pig.

Disagree. This is not our responsibility. Why don't we try making this country more desirable for our own citizens before we meddle in the affairs of other countries?

If you think dealing with an influx of new occupants is expensive, have you even looked at how much it would cost to build a third world country's economy that's nearly the same size as us? Now try and do that, while we are currently dealing with a devaluing dollar, and a shrinking middle class.

We can? It's not like we're saddled with trillions of dollars of debt. Taxpayers will be happy to flush billions of their own money down the toilet trying to improve shithole countries and gain nothing in return. Of course that money will be used as it was intended, it won't be siphoned off by corrupt politicians in those countries.