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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    It's all Carter's fault.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    edited August 2014
    I completely agree with Bronco Bama in his handling of ISIS. We've been leading the Iraqi horse to water for a decade. That fucker has to drink on his own.

    Remember when France came over and help us beat the British out of our country? Me neither. We had to genocide the South at one point too.

    My point is you look at all of these "horrible" things ISIS is doing to all of these people and their all fighting age males lining up to go be slaughtered with not even the slightest bit of fight in them. If you know people are coming to execute you and you massively outnumber them, yet you just accept them with open arms then you're not worth someone like he's time to put together a GBU-12 to defend you.

    Could we eradicate ISIS with our air forces? Absolutely. What's the point if the people left over are fucking worthless pussies?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mosster47 said:

    I completely agree with Bronco Bama in his handling of ISIS. We've been leading the Iraqi horse to water for a decade. That fucker has to drink on his own.

    Remember when France came over and help us beat the British out of our country? Me neither. We had to genocide the South at one point too.

    My point is you look at all of these "horrible" things ISIS is doing to all of these people and their all fighting age males lining up to go be slaughtered with not even the slightest bit of fight in them. If you know people are coming to execute you and you massively outnumber them, yet you just accept them with open arms then you're not worth someone like he's time to put together a GBU-12 to defend you.

    Could we eradicate ISIS with our air forces? Absolutely. What's the point if the people left over are fucking worthless pussies?

    Agree with most of your post but why put horrible in quotations? They are scum of the earth. I think we should use our airforce to kill as many ISIS scum as possible and equip the Kurds to fight them on the ground. But we should get compensated. Iraq needs to pay for the help, with some profit on top.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    I put horrible in quotations because every movement in the history of history has done these same things to get others to fall into their line of thinking. If the Kurds were doing this to ISIS then they would be just and great acts.

    There needs to be a Civil War, we make peace with the winner, and learn from our mistakes. Will they fundamentally hate us? Yep, but deep down so does the side we wanted to win. Bush fucked up 90% of this and Obama blundered the final 10%. It was a shit show start to finish. It's not worth anymore effort.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mosster47 said:

    I put horrible in quotations because every movement in the history of history has done these same things to get others to fall into their line of thinking. If the Kurds were doing this to ISIS then they would be just and great acts.

    There needs to be a Civil War, we make peace with the winner, and learn from our mistakes. Will they fundamentally hate us? Yep, but deep down so does the side we wanted to win. Bush fucked up 90% of this and Obama blundered the final 10%. It was a shit show start to finish. It's not worth anymore effort.

    Agree mostly, again, except for when you say every movement in history has done these things. This movement is particularly vile and really stands out among others. Have you seen their recruitment video? They behead kids. They perform drive by shootings on civilians, among other sick things. Someone needs to kill every last one of them. Who's going to do it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1778-3o_w
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,502
    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!! ISIS has child soldiers with them so we can't kill the kids.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Mosster47 said:

    I put horrible in quotations because every movement in the history of history has done these same things to get others to fall into their line of thinking. If the Kurds were doing this to ISIS then they would be just and great acts.

    There needs to be a Civil War, we make peace with the winner, and learn from our mistakes. Will they fundamentally hate us? Yep, but deep down so does the side we wanted to win. Bush fucked up 90% of this and Obama blundered the final 10%. It was a shit show start to finish. It's not worth anymore effort.

    Agree mostly, again, except for when you say every movement in history has done these things. This movement is particularly vile and really stands out among others. Have you seen their recruitment video? They behead kids. They perform drive by shootings on civilians, among other sick things. Someone needs to kill every last one of them. Who's going to do it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1778-3o_w

    Beheading a child = 30 seconds of fear and agony.

    Giving a child small pox = Weeks of fear and agony.

    There is no nice way to kill people. Your way of killing is no better way than mine. People don't want to be killed and yet they are killed anyway. The method is semantics.

    If Iraqi's want to be lead out into the desert and shot/crucified/beheaded by a small group instead of fighting then they deserve what they get. The local public just sits there and takes videos instead of stepping up and stopping it. It's not our job to stop every movement. By your logic we need to be in Africa too. The things ISIS is doing has been happening there on a daily basis all over the continent for hundreds of years.

    It's a nice dream that everyone can function like the US, Canada, Germany, Britain, France, Russia, and Israel but it's not a reality.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    HFNY said:

    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!! ISIS has child soldiers with them so we can't kill the kids. -- TheGloveFS

    FIFY
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    I put horrible in quotations because every movement in the history of history has done these same things to get others to fall into their line of thinking. If the Kurds were doing this to ISIS then they would be just and great acts.

    There needs to be a Civil War, we make peace with the winner, and learn from our mistakes. Will they fundamentally hate us? Yep, but deep down so does the side we wanted to win. Bush fucked up 90% of this and Obama blundered the final 10%. It was a shit show start to finish. It's not worth anymore effort.

    Agree mostly, again, except for when you say every movement in history has done these things. This movement is particularly vile and really stands out among others. Have you seen their recruitment video? They behead kids. They perform drive by shootings on civilians, among other sick things. Someone needs to kill every last one of them. Who's going to do it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1778-3o_w

    Beheading a child = 30 seconds of fear and agony.

    Giving a child small pox = Weeks of fear and agony.

    There is no nice way to kill people. Your way of killing is no better way than mine. People don't want to be killed and yet they are killed anyway. The method is semantics.

    If Iraqi's want to be lead out into the desert and shot/crucified/beheaded by a small group instead of fighting then they deserve what they get. The local public just sits there and takes videos instead of stepping up and stopping it. It's not our job to stop every movement. By your logic we need to be in Africa too. The things ISIS is doing has been happening there on a daily basis all over the continent for hundreds of years.

    It's a nice dream that everyone can function like the US, Canada, Germany, Britain, France, Russia, and Israel but it's not a reality.
    Twisting. I didn't say we should stop every movement everywhere in the world. I also don't think everyone can function like the democracies (your inclusion of Russia in that group is strange -- they are a dictatorship). Arab countries obviously need strongmen leaders that rule by fear to control their unruly populaces. But whether we like it or not helping kill off this movement is partly our responsibility because if Hussein was still in power it wouldn't be an issue. If our actions didn't partly cause this situation it would be different. We should still get paid for doing airstrikes, but let the Iraqis slug it out on the ground.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,762
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