FUCK QATAR
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Nothing changed with me. Just got call from FRANNY 5 minutes ago and told me I was to show up inMaltby. If dad has stuff to do have him leave with you. I'll have Anna take me and Dad can leave with you. I would prefer u and dad leave together. I'll ask Anna. Shouldn't be a problem. If she can't I'll let you know
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I'd disagree...its not the EPL, and won't be for 50 years if ever.PurpleJ said:@Tequilla
The MLS is fundamentally flawed. Franchise system, salary cap, no promotion/relegation, playing on turf, designated players (DP!!!1), season played during the summer, etc.
It's a Mickey Mouse league.
But I'd argue they are doing it the right way...starting small and growing as they grow the fanbase. The NASL tried to go big quick and it bankrupted them (remember the Cosmos had higher attendance numbers than both the Giants and Jets at the time). MLS is taking the incremental approach, and its kept them in business so far. They just signed a TV contract that is 5-10X their current contract, so you'll see the salary cap go up next year with the new deal. No league in the US started from scratch at was instantly popular...it took a generation or two for it to grow that way (even and esp the NFL). Doesn't fit the ADD mentality of a lot of folks but it is what it is.
Its also letting them figure out player development...each you have teams like KC and to a lesser extent Seattle that are starting to see rewards for developing players, etc. You can't just build that infrastructure from scratch.
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I don't disagree that what they are doing is in direct response to the mistakes of the NASL. However, I do think that they are also going to the opposite extreme of making the mistake of stifling the monetary growth and influence of those that have the ability to have larger ambition.
I do agree with you though that the building out of the player development with the clubs and integrated with the National Team is vital to the growth of soccer in the US. For as good as Jurgen is with what he is doing with the National Team, I firmly believe that his lasting legacy to US Soccer will be what is taking place at the developmental levels of soccer.
I don't think that it's going to take multiple generations for the sport to take off. If you want to think in those terms, we're essentially through the first generation as the World Cup in the US was 20 years ago. I could definitely see by 2025 to 2030 that the infrastructure behind the MLS is strong enough to see growth. You have a number of very strong markets in the league right now IMO with Seattle, Portland, KC, LA, Vancouver, and RSL to just name a handful. There are some markets where I do think that they need to figure things out in greater detail but I think that that can come with time. There's definitely a strong market in the US and I expect that it will only continue to grow.
If you think back to even 10-15 years ago, the ability to watch high-end international soccer on a weekly basis and being in the discussion of the average sports fan is a night and day difference. Yet, when you think about it, the knowledge in this country of everything going on globally is still very, very limited and there's so much more room for growth. -
Pat Gillick is working on testing ideas out in an independent league to speed up the pace of play in baseball. If games last 2 hours and 30 to 45 mins, they'll only be about 30 mins longer than regular soccer games (45 min halves, about 20 mins for halftime, and 5 to 10 minutes for whining). Soccer games that go into extra time or even worse, penalty shots, would last even longer.
Unlike soccer, there's no crying in baseball. I'll never consider being a soccer fan until they start throwing out more yellow cards for blatant faking and acting as if crimes against humanity have occurred. Most sports, you only leave your feet as a last resort but in soccer, players often get rewarded for it with penalty kicks.
Oh and fuck Qatar. Drill Baby Drill and throw solar on every roof we can so that we can compete with them for O & NG exports.
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Fucking this.HFNY said:
Oh and fuck Qatar. Drill Baby Drill and throw solar on every roof we can so that we can compete with them for O & NG exports. -
The pussy sport angle from a baseball fan is fucking rich. LOL.
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Soccer players are tiny and their fans wear scarves in summer. Would you rather get in a brawl with Mike Zunino or Michael Bradley?
And baseball & MLS are in the same season so they compete for summer fan $$$$. HTHPurpleJ said:The pussy sport angle from a baseball fan is fucking rich. LOL.
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1. Baseball is not a contact sport.
2. Soccer players should never any larger than 200 lbs. (unless they play goalie). They run about 10 miles per game. Simple science dictates that. It's much more advantageous to weigh less.
3. Michael Bradley sucks. Fight a real player, like Lukaku or Balotelli.
4. IDGAF about Minor League Soccer. Thought I made that clear.
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I'll say this - I watched more World Cup than ever which isn't saying much but at its highest lever when the teams aren't playing safe and there is good action - soccer still sucks.
Having said that - if Team USA ever stops sucking we could get behind it once every 4 years. I don't know shit about soccer but the US team doesn't belong on the same field once they get to the round of 16. Fucking pathetic.
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THIS is why I always root for #MyKrauts to win.RaceBannon said:the US team doesn't belong on the same field once they get to the round of 16. Fucking pathetic.
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First they came for the World Cup, and I said nothing.PurpleJ said:
THIS is why I always root for #MyKrauts to win.RaceBannon said:the US team doesn't belong on the same field once they get to the round of 16. Fucking pathetic.
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PurpleJ said:
@Tequilla
The MLS is fundamentally flawed.
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Been there. It's like Tucson for the most part.
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one day you will be dead, and none of this will have mattered....moveon.org
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I know i have made it when i am quoted on HH.... Free pub!!!!
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It's because I care. You should take our fucktarded foreign policy more seriously. I know many countries already don't, but you should.jecornel said:I know i have made it when i am quoted on HH.... Free pub!!!!
Thanks purp
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Purp. I fee like you are my biggest fan.