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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,570
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    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Thanks teq. Could you boil this down to a
    Couple sentences for me?

    The little 2 think they've won ... they won a small battle but will lose the war

    Those going to the Big10 and Big12 will be fine

    Cal & Stanford can fuck off and be the academic elites that they aspire to be viewed as
    Big 12 isn't fine.

    The ACC won't have any brands if FSU, Miami, potentially UNC leave.

    Big 12 already doesn't have any brands. ~Half the schools are former G5's and basketball won't make up for that.
    Big12 will be fine because it will be the stand-alone 3rd conference with a decided gap eventually between itself and everything else below it ... there will be an obvious gap between them in the SEC/Big10 and that's fine. They'll largely be on fine and stable footing going forward because any consolidation below 3 will hit the ire of any kind of competitive imbalance that antitrust regulators jump on

    The Big12 will always be fine from a hoops standpoint and that will always be the leg that they are able to stand on as being superior or at least on par with everybody else


    You're right that there are some schools and programs that I don't necessarily love in that conference but I do think they've largely made smart adds going forward. Outside of picking the leftovers of some of the ACC schools that don't get poached off, I'm not really sure I see a program that they've missed adding that they should have added in place of anybody that they have in fact added.
    I agree. The Big 12 did as best they could to offset the loss of Texas and Oklahoma.

    Going from the fifth best conference to the third best is no small feat. Some could even say the conference could be better than it was previously.

    I think that’s where Haie misses the mark in his comments

    Nobody is claiming that they will be the equal of the SEC and Big10 … they will have their challenges when it comes to flat out matching the resources

    But they’ve largely done what they could and they’ve built a collection that is close enough top to bottom peer wise that they’ll survive versus the gaps between top and bottom that blew up the PAC and will blow up the ACC

    I expect the conference will continue to remain compelling
    I'm not missing the mark.

    It's a power 2, there is no third, so they're just another graveyard conference.

    Utah who just scored 7 against Northwestern is supposed to be the banner school now. Fucking eh oh el.
    Imagine banking an opinion on anything in the bowl season today … as long as teams are gutted by the portal and opt outs the balance of these games are exhibitions no better than watching NFL preseason football
    0 good teams in that conference now. 0 brands.

    ESPN+ Tuesday Night Game of the Week: TCU vs Cincinnati!!!!
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    EwaDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Thanks teq. Could you boil this down to a
    Couple sentences for me?

    The little 2 think they've won ... they won a small battle but will lose the war

    Those going to the Big10 and Big12 will be fine

    Cal & Stanford can fuck off and be the academic elites that they aspire to be viewed as
    Big 12 isn't fine.

    The ACC won't have any brands if FSU, Miami, potentially UNC leave.

    Big 12 already doesn't have any brands. ~Half the schools are former G5's and basketball won't make up for that.
    Big12 will be fine because it will be the stand-alone 3rd conference with a decided gap eventually between itself and everything else below it ... there will be an obvious gap between them in the SEC/Big10 and that's fine. They'll largely be on fine and stable footing going forward because any consolidation below 3 will hit the ire of any kind of competitive imbalance that antitrust regulators jump on

    The Big12 will always be fine from a hoops standpoint and that will always be the leg that they are able to stand on as being superior or at least on par with everybody else


    You're right that there are some schools and programs that I don't necessarily love in that conference but I do think they've largely made smart adds going forward. Outside of picking the leftovers of some of the ACC schools that don't get poached off, I'm not really sure I see a program that they've missed adding that they should have added in place of anybody that they have in fact added.
    I agree. The Big 12 did as best they could to offset the loss of Texas and Oklahoma.

    Going from the fifth best conference to the third best is no small feat. Some could even say the conference could be better than it was previously.

    I think that’s where Haie misses the mark in his comments

    Nobody is claiming that they will be the equal of the SEC and Big10 … they will have their challenges when it comes to flat out matching the resources

    But they’ve largely done what they could and they’ve built a collection that is close enough top to bottom peer wise that they’ll survive versus the gaps between top and bottom that blew up the PAC and will blow up the ACC

    I expect the conference will continue to remain compelling
    I'm not missing the mark.

    It's a power 2, there is no third, so they're just another graveyard conference.

    Utah who just scored 7 against Northwestern is supposed to be the banner school now. Fucking eh oh el.
    Imagine banking an opinion on anything in the bowl season today … as long as teams are gutted by the portal and opt outs the balance of these games are exhibitions no better than watching NFL preseason football
    0 good teams in that conference now. 0 brands.

    ESPN+ Tuesday Night Game of the Week: TCU vs Cincinnati!!!!
    Nobody is holding up the Big12 as the SEC or Big10

    If you aren’t in those 2 conferences then the Big12 is the best of the remaining alternatives … it’s not really close

    Do you think there’s a better option or combination out there?
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