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  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,822 Founders Club
    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,822 Founders Club
    Oh I see the "conspiracy" is about technology we have and the scientists who were on board. Obviously, something odd other than a tragic plane crash happened but I thought wreckage was eventually found.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    According to the Netflix documentary there was no wreckage found. Though, I believe a small piece was recovered but highly questionable.

    Remember when the Titan imploded and the underground audio system picked it up by the military? There was never any audio ever shared of a triple 777 crashing into the ocean. There are three systems that could have heard the event and nothing. The ping data also appears to have been manipulated.

    The suicide theory is total garbage.
    RoadTrip said:

    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?

  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,822 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    According to the Netflix documentary there was no wreckage found. Though, I believe a small piece was recovered but highly questionable.

    Remember when the Titan imploded and the underground audio system picked it up by the military? There was never any audio ever shared of a triple 777 crashing into the ocean. There are three systems that could have heard the event and nothing. The ping data also appears to have been manipulated.

    The suicide theory is total garbage.

    RoadTrip said:

    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?

    Very interesting
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,900
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    This is probably the strongest debunking video available. Goes into great detail. Essentially the cloud/sky image was lifted from a digital creator page.

  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,456
    jecornel said:

    This is probably the strongest debunking video available. Goes into great detail. Essentially the cloud/sky image was lifted from a digital creator page.

    This has been called into question. Burner Reddit account that “found” the supposed source photo from a photographers pictures sold to a stock image supplier website; not the alleged photographer. The debunk is suspect and does more to raise additional questions than it does prove it was hoaxed.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    I read as well that they can’t find the cloud image in torrents as well. Kimdotcom now is pushing for it to be over and done with. It keeps getting more interesting by the day.
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,809 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    According to the Netflix documentary there was no wreckage found. Though, I believe a small piece was recovered but highly questionable.

    Remember when the Titan imploded and the underground audio system picked it up by the military? There was never any audio ever shared of a triple 777 crashing into the ocean. There are three systems that could have heard the event and nothing. The ping data also appears to have been manipulated.

    The suicide theory is total garbage.

    RoadTrip said:

    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?

    So this is the summary of what is claimed? It didn't actually crash into the ocean despite debris washing up? What happened to it then?

    I'm not sure what Indian Ocean surface listening systems are available, but my guess is that we don't have the same fleets and technology patrolling it compared to the North Atlantic for obvious reasons. Additionally, AirFrance 447 went splat in the middle of the Atlantic in 2009 and was not found immediately despite not checking in with radar waypoints and a fairly quick S&R attempt. I don't recall ever hearing that underwater listening capabilities led to the recovery of parts. Radar last known aircraft position leads to finding crash locations. Which clearly wasn't available with MH370.

    I've never heard of ocean audio for a plane crash being shared. AF 447, MS 990 and SR 111 met their end in the Atlantic in the past 25-30 years. No ocean audio.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    It went through a worm hole.
    whlinder said:

    jecornel said:

    According to the Netflix documentary there was no wreckage found. Though, I believe a small piece was recovered but highly questionable.

    Remember when the Titan imploded and the underground audio system picked it up by the military? There was never any audio ever shared of a triple 777 crashing into the ocean. There are three systems that could have heard the event and nothing. The ping data also appears to have been manipulated.

    The suicide theory is total garbage.

    RoadTrip said:

    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?

    So this is the summary of what is claimed? It didn't actually crash into the ocean despite debris washing up? What happened to it then?

    I'm not sure what Indian Ocean surface listening systems are available, but my guess is that we don't have the same fleets and technology patrolling it compared to the North Atlantic for obvious reasons. Additionally, AirFrance 447 went splat in the middle of the Atlantic in 2009 and was not found immediately despite not checking in with radar waypoints and a fairly quick S&R attempt. I don't recall ever hearing that underwater listening capabilities led to the recovery of parts. Radar last known aircraft position leads to finding crash locations. Which clearly wasn't available with MH370.

    I've never heard of ocean audio for a plane crash being shared. AF 447, MS 990 and SR 111 met their end in the Atlantic in the past 25-30 years. No ocean audio.
  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,456
    whlinder said:

    jecornel said:

    According to the Netflix documentary there was no wreckage found. Though, I believe a small piece was recovered but highly questionable.

    Remember when the Titan imploded and the underground audio system picked it up by the military? There was never any audio ever shared of a triple 777 crashing into the ocean. There are three systems that could have heard the event and nothing. The ping data also appears to have been manipulated.

    The suicide theory is total garbage.

    RoadTrip said:

    Haven't watched because didn't they find wreckage from this flight?

    So this is the summary of what is claimed? It didn't actually crash into the ocean despite debris washing up? What happened to it then?

    I'm not sure what Indian Ocean surface listening systems are available, but my guess is that we don't have the same fleets and technology patrolling it compared to the North Atlantic for obvious reasons. Additionally, AirFrance 447 went splat in the middle of the Atlantic in 2009 and was not found immediately despite not checking in with radar waypoints and a fairly quick S&R attempt. I don't recall ever hearing that underwater listening capabilities led to the recovery of parts. Radar last known aircraft position leads to finding crash locations. Which clearly wasn't available with MH370.

    I've never heard of ocean audio for a plane crash being shared. AF 447, MS 990 and SR 111 met their end in the Atlantic in the past 25-30 years. No ocean audio.
    Ocean audio recording sources are claimed to exist by the group of autists (a term I use lovingly) doing the digital forensics work with Ashton. I’ve never heard of such recordings but it’s stated as fact that they exist (eg, at Diego Garcia - which I’d be shocked if at least they didn’t have) and I’ve assumed someone has such receipts to prove.

    There seems to be a deliberate and well coordinated effort to create uncertainty as to the authenticity of any footage, documents, or the validity of the scientific acumen necessary for the to be a probable explanation. All source material is contaminated by the cloud of uncertainty as digital manipulation of the material is too easy for anyone to spoof and thus an asterisk could be added to each bullet point of the disappearance argument. Which I assume is the point.

    I’ve been down pretty deep into this rabbit hole the past three weeks and, if nothing else, its been a fun soap opera to be part of, and there is far more credibility to their arguments than there is evidence supporting it being a hoax. Without the source material of the digital production author being made public/available to address the disappearance theory the analysis is best explained by novel technology built and operated by the US. Not nearly as insane a statement when you realize these technologies have been posited as being possible given our scientific advancements in the past 40 years. Whole thing is crazy and unsettling. I’d prefer it personally to be a hoax, but the evidence is what it is.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    Next step for Ashton is to appear on Rogan. But my guess is Rogan will have Alex Jones on and it will be brought while drinking and smoking cigars. So it can be brought to light but in a joking manner but will the interest of millions more.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,618
    Yes numerous pieces washed ashore....
  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,456
    Goduckies said:

    Yes numerous pieces washed ashore....

    Nothing specific or unique to the missing plane
    Goduckies said:

    Yes numerous pieces washed ashore....

    This is the break we’ve been waiting for!
    Thanks!!!eleven!!

    I’m gonna run this over to the group right now!

    How did they miss actual parts of the plane Unreal! Fucking idiots.


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