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UW, Kalen DeBoer have initiated contract talks

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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,980 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Spitballing the marginal revenue UW would receive with a 10+win perennial contender coach.The good seats are taken, then you have reseller fees (SeatGeek/StubHub)

    Better bowls = more revenue though that comes with higher expenses.

    Haven't even included stadium debt where principal payments kick-in. Refinancing debt at a higher interest rates is another challenge.

    Current season ticket holder will get a love bump next year but that will go right out to pay the coaches.

  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    It's absurd to be talking about this for a corch who hasn't even won a conference title. Then again, the coaching market is more absurd.

    Forgot to add, next year is going to be a massive rebuild. Dutch, Rich and 2-4 will be awesome.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    ntxduck said:

    Baseman said:

    ntxduck said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    Link?
    For what?
    The onlyfans
    Thanks anyways
  • EwaDawgEwaDawg Member Posts: 4,214
    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Also, 7 home every other year
  • OreDawgOreDawg Member Posts: 656
    Caple speculated in his column that UW might help the AD with its stadium debt. Usually Caple doesn’t just say shit without some sort of knowledge, that move would go a long way towards getting deboer and the staff what it needs. Cauce knows what’s important here.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,980 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Spitballing the marginal revenue UW would receive with a 10+win perennial contender coach.The good seats are taken, then you have reseller fees (SeatGeek/StubHub)

    Better bowls = more revenue though that comes with higher expenses.

    Haven't even included stadium debt where principal payments kick-in. Refinancing debt at a higher interest rates is another challenge.

    Current season ticket holder will get a love bump next year but that will go right out to pay the coaches.

    I hate to quibble, but regarding ticket resellers ....

    Paciolan is the primary ticket provider. No idea what they are charging on the back end but I would imagine its a lot less than you think, and no where near Ticketmaster.

    SeatGeek is an 'official partner' so they are certainly sharing in the revenue from reseller fees. IF they are selling their own inventory, I can promise you the seller-side fees are closer to 5%, maybe less (normal is 15%) a discount offered to large/institutional sellers.

    StubHub* is no longer a partner and I can't imagine is sharing revenue. However, they would be a beneficiary of the Large Seller program and a reduced selling-side fee - 5% or less.


    No quibble with the rest.




    *A lifetime ago I used to participate in the Large Seller program on StubHub
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Spitballing the marginal revenue UW would receive with a 10+win perennial contender coach.The good seats are taken, then you have reseller fees (SeatGeek/StubHub)

    Better bowls = more revenue though that comes with higher expenses.

    Haven't even included stadium debt where principal payments kick-in. Refinancing debt at a higher interest rates is another challenge.

    Current season ticket holder will get a love bump next year but that will go right out to pay the coaches.

    I hate to quibble, but regarding ticket resellers ....

    Paciolan is the primary ticket provider. No idea what they are charging on the back end but I would imagine its a lot less than you think, and no where near Ticketmaster.

    SeatGeek is an 'official partner' so they are certainly sharing in the revenue from reseller fees. IF they are selling their own inventory, I can promise you the seller-side fees are closer to 5%, maybe less (normal is 15%) a discount offered to large/institutional sellers.

    StubHub* is no longer a partner and I can't imagine is sharing revenue. However, they would be a beneficiary of the Large Seller program and a reduced selling-side fee - 5% or less.


    No quibble with the rest.




    *A lifetime ago I used to participate in the Large Seller program on StubHub
    I've bought tickets for 2 games on StubHub and it showed the seller as the University? Somehow they have my info because I keep getting emails from UW on that account which is different than the one they have on file. They also direct you to buy tickets from SeatGeek


  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Yeah I'd double the average ticket price, though we won't be getting an extra 10k fans. There is basically no marginal cost for tickets sold above 60k fans, and the seats available are usually all over stadium when it's not sold out, especially along the 50s as those are the most expensive. Plus your concession sales should increase in proportion.

    UW averaged 63,000 fans a game last year and should finish around 69,000 this year. 6,000 x 7 x $70 = $2.9M extra in ticket sales alone.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366

    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Yeah I'd double the average ticket price, though we won't be getting an extra 10k fans. There is basically no marginal cost for tickets sold above 60k fans, and the seats available are usually all over stadium when it's not sold out, especially along the 50s as those are the most expensive. Plus your concession sales should increase in proportion.

    UW averaged 63,000 fans a game last year and should finish around 69,000 this year. 6,000 x 7 x $70 = $2.9M extra in ticket sales alone.
    I paid far less than $70 per, including the fees for good 100 level seats. There is no marginal cost, it's marginal revenue UW nets. Even at your $2.9 number that will be far less than just DeBoers raise, IF he accepts the raise and doesn't go for the highest bidder.

    Either way, UW can't afford $10M per without an athletic sugar daddy...



    He along with other donors are picking up most of Oregons stadium cost
    Other major contributions from Knight, his spouse, his companies or consortiums led by Knight include:

    · $100 million for an athletic legacy fund that helped fund the Matthew Knight Arena and other UO projects.

    $41.7 million for a student-athlete academic and tutoring center.

    This doesn't include the off-the-books player coach payroll/NIL



  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,213 Swaye's Wigwam

    It's absurd to be talking about this for a corch who hasn't even won a conference title. Then again, the coaching market is more absurd.

    Forgot to add, next year is going to be a massive rebuild. Dutch, Rich and 2-4 will be awesome.
    Someone has never looked at DeBoer's wiki page
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,213 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2023
    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?
  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,082 Swaye's Wigwam
    EwaDawg said:

    pawz said:

    Baseman said:

    Canadawg said:

    What is deboer worth? 8 mil? Do we think UW is trying to give him 6 and he's forced to be public about the BS offer or is he being unnecessarily cavalier over a few hundred K $ by sounding uncommitted to the media?

    Follow the $: Assume KDB keeps it rocking. 6home games, UW puts 10,000 additional asses in seats at $35 per. This equates to $2.1 million. Where does the rest come from?

    A little over a year ago Karen was running point on NIL in between dropping recipes and promoting her onlyfans on social media. Heard she was also taking meetings (Lord knows she wasn't rainmaking) alongside Jen with prospective donors.

    UWs half share of Big 10 $ will barely cover the additional travel expenses over the next few years.

    Absent a whale donor(s), UW can't afford $10M per and a higher asst. pool

    Give Ana credit. She's greenlit a raise she'll have to justify to the regents and the state. Doubling the states highest paid employee's salary will generate plenty of blowback from an Inslee-led Reich
    How do you get to $35? What are you discounting from the $65-70/ticket average sale price?


    Also, 7 home every other year
    Pretty sure the B1G wants 7 home games every year
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    edited November 2023

    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?

    Sure but until has turns to is it's all speculation (someone kindly post the speculation disclaimer @dnc @GrundleStiltzkin ) The Nordstroms and Gates have been large donors for academis. Athletics, not so much

    For someone as worldly as you, PGOS you should know doubling the states highest paid employee, who happens to be a football coach, in this ECONOMY won't go over well. Teachers will cry foul, etc.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?

    Sure but until has turns to is it's all speculation (someone kindly post the speculation disclaimer @dnc @GrundleStiltzkin ) The Nordstroms and Gates have been large donors for academis. Athletics, not so much

    For someone as worldly as you, PGOS you should know doubling the states highest paid employee, who happens to be a football coach, in this ECONOMY won't go over well. Teachers will cry foul, etc.
    If AMC doesn't laugh in their face she/her isn't who we thought they/them are
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,213 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2023
    Baseman said:

    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?

    Sure but until has turns to is it's all speculation (someone kindly post the speculation disclaimer @dnc @GrundleStiltzkin ) The Nordstroms and Gates have been large donors for academis. Athletics, not so much

    For someone as worldly as you, PGOS you should know doubling the states highest paid employee, who happens to be a football coach, in this ECONOMY won't go over well. Teachers will cry foul, etc.
    It's a good thing the collectivist teacher drivel means diddly squat.

    This is still a capitalism or die state, for the time being.

    No income tax. Most regressive taxes in the nation. The poors pay more taxes than in any other state in the great state of WA.

    If AMC wants to pay DeBoer, which she does, it will happen. Im not worried. At all.

    This line of thinking youre going down might be worth something if UW was sitting here holding our limp dicks in the Pac 8 on some Apple TV contract.

    We are in the B1G. The state left cuog to die.

    Time for our fanbase to let the trauma and ptsd die. We have a big clit President in town.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club

    Baseman said:

    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?

    Sure but until has turns to is it's all speculation (someone kindly post the speculation disclaimer @dnc @GrundleStiltzkin ) The Nordstroms and Gates have been large donors for academis. Athletics, not so much

    For someone as worldly as you, PGOS you should know doubling the states highest paid employee, who happens to be a football coach, in this ECONOMY won't go over well. Teachers will cry foul, etc.
    It's a good thing the collectivist teacher drivel means diddly squat.

    This is still a capitalism or die state, for the time being.

    No income tax. Most regressive taxes in the nation. The poors pay more taxes than in any other state in the great state of WA.

    If AMC wants to pay DeBoer, which she does, it will happen. Im not worried. At all.

    This line of thinking youre going down might be worth something if UW was sitting here holding our limp dicks in the Pac 8 on some Apple TV contract.

    We are in the B1G. The state left cuog to die.

    Time for our fanbase to let the trauma and ptsd die. We have a big clit President in town.
    Now if you can overcome your beaverphobia we're getting somewhere
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,213 Swaye's Wigwam

    Baseman said:

    @Baseman you are usually right, but youre wrong here.

    UW absolutely has the donor base to make this happen. Nordstroms, Weyerhaeuser, @Sonics1994...some big money.

    The state and Inslee couldnt care less. They kicked cuog to the curb and blow far more money on stupid shit that doesnt pencil


    Deboer pencils rather easily, say 21-2 and 17 straight wins?

    Sure but until has turns to is it's all speculation (someone kindly post the speculation disclaimer @dnc @GrundleStiltzkin ) The Nordstroms and Gates have been large donors for academis. Athletics, not so much

    For someone as worldly as you, PGOS you should know doubling the states highest paid employee, who happens to be a football coach, in this ECONOMY won't go over well. Teachers will cry foul, etc.
    It's a good thing the collectivist teacher drivel means diddly squat.

    This is still a capitalism or die state, for the time being.

    No income tax. Most regressive taxes in the nation. The poors pay more taxes than in any other state in the great state of WA.

    If AMC wants to pay DeBoer, which she does, it will happen. Im not worried. At all.

    This line of thinking youre going down might be worth something if UW was sitting here holding our limp dicks in the Pac 8 on some Apple TV contract.

    We are in the B1G. The state left cuog to die.

    Time for our fanbase to let the trauma and ptsd die. We have a big clit President in town.
    Now if you can overcome your beaverphobia we're getting somewhere
    No beaverphobia here. I expect the DAWGS to win.

    But the beav is a solid team. Ill celebrate the undefeated regular season Saturday at 8pm
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