Hardcore Husky Podcast: Paranoid, Bankrupt and 7-0

Joey

TheHB said:

Wasn’t there a strip sack against Michigan State? Maybe I’m thinking of something else. Regardless, they are rarer than an accurate injury report from @bisonduck

It got ruled incomplete and didn’t get challenged

GrundleStiltzkin

TheHB said:

Wasn’t there a strip sack against Michigan State? Maybe I’m thinking of something else. Regardless, they are rarer than an accurate injury report from @bisonduck

Wasn’t called a fumble. Didn’t even get reviewed.

chuck

DerekJohnson said:

chuck said:

DerekJohnson said:

haie said:

Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.

Nah I think he's correct. Coaching can teach bad tacklers how to tackle in practice and how to make the easy ones...hitting guys who are held up, popping a guy pinned to the sidelines etc.

You can't take a guy who just doesn't get it and expect him to ever be really good at it though. It's an instinctive process to cut off angles, break down properly so you're ready to launch but also able to go to either side, and time the hit. Muhammad has it, Baker, Gordon and McDuffie had it. Too many of the current DBs don't.

I think that's kind of in line with what he was saying.

"My players are good enough if me and my coaches are good enough to teach them" - Chuck Knox

I'm not denying there's a developmental problem. I'm not sure there is either but I can't deny that it's possible.

College teams have a lot of guys who aren't complete players but stay on the field based on something else. Tackling is one of the most common deficiencies. It's hard.

DerekJohnson

Canadawg said:

One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

It's almost as though coaching matters

Canadawg

DerekJohnson said:

Canadawg said:

One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

It's almost as though coaching matters

I will be watching for this situation on Saturday. Possible calls for coaches heads if they keep swatting at the ball while the RB gains 9 yards

haie

DerekJohnson said:

Canadawg said:

One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

It's almost as though coaching matters

Yeah, I mean the tackling being this bad after 2 years is unacceptable. But I don't think anyone is thrilled with Morrell even with the clutch stops.

It's not the same defense, but Petersen's system only worked because they recruited guys with incredible baseline open field tackling ability. It's the second hardest thing to do in football. That's how you sit people back and can still get off the field on 4th and 3.

It's like we shouldn't even be running this defense.

WoolleyDoog

haie said:

DerekJohnson said:

Canadawg said:

One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

It's almost as though coaching matters

Yeah, I mean the tackling being this bad after 2 years is unacceptable. But I don't think anyone is thrilled with Morrell even with the clutch stops.

It's not the same defense, but Petersen's system only worked because they recruited guys with incredible baseline open field tackling ability. It's the second hardest thing to do in football. That's how you sit people back and can still get off the field on 4th and 3.

It's like we shouldn't even be running this defense.

I'm wondering if they're starting to run the Petersen/Kwit prevent defense out of desperation. I think the tackling and especially the pass defense has improved, especially with almost no pass rush.

TheHB

The tackling is horrifying, but dammit, they’re making the stops when the have to.

It’s kind of odd. But I remember thinking last year, “if only this defense as average …”

This version might actually be a bit better than average.

GrundleStiltzkin

TheHB said:

The tackling is horrifying, but dammit, they’re making the stops when the have to.

It’s kind of odd. But I remember thinking last year, “if only this defense as average …”

This version might actually be a bit better than average.

Stats say it is "above average" but fuck o' dear is it painful to watch.

TheHB

Chinned for use of “fuck o’ dear”