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Killing People Is Harder Than You'd Think

AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2014/07/24/arizona-execution-joseph-wood-eyewitness/13083637/
It was death by apnea. And it went on for an hour and a half. I made a pencil stroke on a pad of paper, each time his mouth opened, and ticked off more than 640, which was not all of them, because the doctor came in at least four times and blocked my view.

I turned to my friend Troy Hayden, the anchor and reporter from Fox 10 News, who was sitting next to me. Troy and I witnessed another execution together in 2007, and he had seen one before that, so he also knows what it looks like.

"I don't think he's going to die," I said.

A moment later, Troy turned to me and whispered, "I think you're right."
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  • RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    If he'd killed a family member of mine it wouldn't have taken me that long to snuff the asshole...
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    This is what happens when more efficient and effective means of killing are intentionally excluded specifically to generate this sort of emotionally charged/ intellectually void headline and reactions by a minority of folks with an agenda they cannot advance using conventional means.
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,511 Founders Club
    What's more cruel and unusual, death serum via IV from the lowest bidder, or a fucking 1 dollar bullet to the temple? Just shoot the motherfuckers. Christ.
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Or light them on fire. These murderers didn't care about the suffering of their victims. Why should we care about theirs? They're getting off easy in comparison.

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    It really surprises me that no US company has started to manufacture the necessary drugs for the lethal injection cocktail - in particular sodium thiopental. Whatever your feelings on the death penalty, companies and countries that oppose it would seem to have the right to refuse to sell sodium thiopental if they believed the drug was going to be used in lethal injections.

    I think these repeated failures in the execution chamber are going to open a door for a successful 8th Amendment challenge.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    It really surprises me that no US company has started to manufacture the necessary drugs for the lethal injection cocktail - in particular sodium thiopental. Whatever your feelings on the death penalty, companies and countries that oppose it would seem to have the right to refuse to sell sodium thiopental if they believed the drug was going to be used in lethal injections.

    I think these repeated failures in the execution chamber are going to open a door for a successful 8th Amendment challenge.

    Another long-term victory won through repeated, short-term incompetence.
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2014

    Each state should be free to choose its death penalty policy. Each state should also have the freedom to ship their killers off to Texas to get executed.
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,511 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    It really surprises me that no US company has started to manufacture the necessary drugs for the lethal injection cocktail - in particular sodium thiopental. Whatever your feelings on the death penalty, companies and countries that oppose it would seem to have the right to refuse to sell sodium thiopental if they believed the drug was going to be used in lethal injections.

    I think these repeated failures in the execution chamber are going to open a door for a successful 8th Amendment challenge.

    Maybe I can make some up in my bathtub.
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    oregonblitzkrieg said:



    Each state should be free to chose its death penalty policy. Each state should also have the freedom to ship their killers off to Texas to get executed.

    That's pretty fucking funny.

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  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,421
    MikeDamone said:

    RaccoonHarry said:

    If he'd killed a family member of mine it wouldn't have taken me that long to snuff the asshole...

    I love it when people talk about "what they would do" to someone if they killed or raped a family member. Hypothetical murder of family member tough guys.. You'd do what 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of everyone else does and watch the legal process handle it.
    With the castle law, you get legal process and get to be a tough guy. Abundance.
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  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    MikeDamone said:

    Why not use the same stuff they use dogs and horses? They just pass out and die in a minute. What's the big complication here?

    This! If you give someone two combat doses of morphine they die withing minutes like 70% of the time. There is so much deadly shit out there. Why and how in the fuck do you screw that up?
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    Time for some execution method power rankings:

    1. Crucifixion - Most famous method of all-time. Good enough for the Romans, and can also be performed upside down. Nuff said on that.
    2. Blowing from a gun - Victim is tied to end of cannon, cannon is fired.
    3. Death by trampling/crushing - Typically performed with elephants or persons the size of Fetters.
    4. Stoning - Nothing wrong with getting stoned.
    5. Drowing - *gurgle*
    6. Drawn and quarter/beheading - It's like taking a puzzle apart. Much more fun than putting one together.
    7. Gas chamber - Very efficient. Works well in groups.
    8. Firing squad - Great for dealing with political opponents, and fun for the whole family.
    9. Electric chair - Smells bad I hear.
    10. Hanging - Kind of boring to watch IMO.
    11. Lethal injection - Boring and humane. Who the fuck wants that?




















    12. Cal

    I laffed
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Time for some execution method power rankings:

    1. Crucifixion - Most famous method of all-time. Good enough for the Romans, and can also be performed upside down. Nuff said on that.
    2. Blowing from a gun - Victim is tied to end of cannon, cannon is fired.
    3. Death by trampling/crushing - Typically performed with elephants or persons the size of Fetters.
    4. Stoning - Nothing wrong with getting stoned.
    5. Drowing - *gurgle*
    6. Drawn and quarter/beheading - It's like taking a puzzle apart. Much more fun than putting one together.
    7. Gas chamber - Very efficient. Works well in groups.
    8. Firing squad - Great for dealing with political opponents, and fun for the whole family.
    9. Electric chair - Smells bad I hear.
    10. Hanging - Kind of boring to watch IMO.
    11. Lethal injection - Boring and humane. Who the fuck wants that?




















    12. Cal

    I laffed
    It's slow and painful, which is good, but it is also the least entertaining method on the list. And it's not even close.
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Cal is slow painful death
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    PurpleJ said:

    Time for some execution method power rankings:

    1. Crucifixion - Most famous method of all-time. Good enough for the Romans, and can also be performed upside down. Nuff said on that.
    2. Blowing from a gun - Victim is tied to end of cannon, cannon is fired.
    3. Death by trampling/crushing - Typically performed with elephants or persons the size of Fetters.
    4. Stoning - Nothing wrong with getting stoned.
    5. Drowing - *gurgle*
    6. Drawn and quarter/beheading - It's like taking a puzzle apart. Much more fun than putting one together.
    7. Gas chamber - Very efficient. Works well in groups.
    8. Firing squad - Great for dealing with political opponents, and fun for the whole family.
    9. Electric chair - Smells bad I hear.
    10. Hanging - Kind of boring to watch IMO.
    11. Lethal injection - Boring and humane. Who the fuck wants that?




















    12. Cal

    Why do you hate #MyLions?

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  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    MikeDamone said:

    Why not use the same stuff they use dogs and horses? They just pass out and die in a minute. What's the big complication here?

    The drug company lobbyists probably forced through laws that disallowed using animal euthanizing drugs on humans... claiming that only human euthanizing drugs were good enough for humans.

    Never underestimate the desire of a company to do whatever it takes to use the government in an effort to pass legislation to give them a competitive advantage.

    American "capitalism" at work.


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