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Passion

"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.

oregonblitzkrieg

Passion said:

He seemed like one of the very few honorable "Nazis"

"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.



That's why Nazis was in quotations. He wasn't actually a Nazi. But he allowed himself to be used by them.

PurpleJ

Passion said:

"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.

PassionFS

Not all Germans supported the Nazi party. Rommel had serious reservations regarding the Nazis, but was committed to doing his job as a General. He believed in keeping his political beliefs separate from his job, and had he spoken up he would have been gone. No warning, just gone. He wanted Hitler removed from power during the later years of the war, but did not support assassinating him. He wanted Hitler to be tried by a jury. He ended up with a choice of suicide with an honorable burial, or standing trial for treason and likely being hanged in public. He chose suicide.

RaccoonHarry

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.

PassionFS

Not all Germans supported the Nazi party. Rommel had serious reservations regarding the Nazis, but was committed to doing his job as a General. He believed in keeping his political beliefs separate from his job, and had he spoken up he would have been gone. No warning, just gone. He wanted Hitler removed from power during the later years of the war, but did not support assassinating him. He wanted Hitler to be tried by a jury. He ended up with a choice of suicide with an honorable burial, or standing trial for treason and likely being hanged in public. He chose suicide.

Plus, he was told they'd kill his family. The Nazi's played for keeps. Rommel was admired greatly by the Allies for not just his unequalled military skill but also his human qualities. If the Allies hadn't cut off his supplies and reinforcements they'd have never taken North Africa.

Passion

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

fivehundredmileDAWG

Textbook example of how you never know where a thread will go.

TierbsHsotBoobs

fivehundredmileDAWG said:

Textbook example of how you never know where a thread will go.

Disagree.

Nazi digressions should always be expected.

PurpleJ

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

Passion

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

PurpleJ

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

Not sandy, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. Based on your response, I'm guessing you have nothing to rebut it with. Nice to see you haven't changed. Have a nice day.