Ana Mari Cauce who got it done getting us to the B1G, anybody read her wiki? Damn.
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Again... As I said earlier in this thread, the assumptions I made were proved mostly wrong as she was very vocal about leaving the Pac-12 and I acknowledged it. And you come in with "Because she's Cuban?" which I never, ever said or implied, and I didn't appreciate that underhanded tactic.NorwegianHusky said:
Cuban is a nationality, not ethnicity. My point was she doesn't have any communist roots. Her dad worked for Batista, the guy the communists overthrew, and her family fled after the communists took over. Seems her brother decided to become a communist anyway, but I don't see how that makes her one.DerekJohnson said:
No... I never mentioned ethnicity. I mentioned her Communist roots. Multiple posters in this thread struggling with reading comprehension.NorwegianHusky said:
Because she's Cuban? Expats who fled Cuba aren't exactly known for being liberal. Miami Cubans are a pretty important Republican base in Florida. Pretty surprising that her brother was a commie tbh, there's no way their parents were if they worked for Batista and fled after the revolution.DerekJohnson said:
I mentioned and cited this when she got hired. It was this combined with her appearance that led me to believe she'd be against football and anything that hinted of the patriarchy. But it turns out I was pretty much wrong, unless she has transformed from when she first ascended to the roleHairyBallsDawg said:
For some odd reason I was reading it while listening to Rage Against the Machine and wondering who our next A.D. will be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Mari_Cauce
"Cauce was born in Havana, Cuba, to Vicente Cauce, minister of education under Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista, and Ana Cauce (née Vivanco).[4] When she was three years old, her family, including her brother César, fled the island during the Cuban revolution. She grew up in Miami, Florida, where her father, who held a PhD, worked first as a custodian. Eventually both parents worked in a shoe factory.[5]"
"In 1979, Cauce's older brother, César Cauce, a well-known communist activist, was killed in the Greensboro massacre.[11] He and the other three white male victims were buried in Greensboro at a traditionally black cemetery.[12]"
She had Communist roots and she was quoted somewhere talking about "equity" (I posted it on HcH at the time) and she dressed in a frumpy manner at early press conferences, so I assumed that we had yet another university president who was anti-football. But I was so very impressed with the interview that she gave to Caple and it greatly altered my perception of her. -
If she was so good at fundraising, why was she begging and pleading for money? Why aren't our financials in better shape?TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:That and the fact that she then hired a leopard print AD that seemed better suited to be in charge of Alumni Fundraising (what she had been hired for I think) than the AD position.
That worked out (maybe) better than that, but again, the concerns remain -
Pics?UW_Doog_Bot said:
With Cubans it is a binary either you are or aren't a commie. Lots of family civil wars go on on the subject.NorwegianHusky said:
Cuban is a nationality, not ethnicity. My point was she doesn't have any communist roots. Her dad worked for Batista, the guy the communists overthrew, and her family fled after the communists took over. Seems her brother decided to become a communist anyway, but I don't see how that makes her one.DerekJohnson said:
No... I never mentioned ethnicity. I mentioned her Communist roots. Multiple posters in this thread struggling with reading comprehension.NorwegianHusky said:
Because she's Cuban? Expats who fled Cuba aren't exactly known for being liberal. Miami Cubans are a pretty important Republican base in Florida. Pretty surprising that her brother was a commie tbh, there's no way their parents were if they worked for Batista and fled after the revolution.DerekJohnson said:
I mentioned and cited this when she got hired. It was this combined with her appearance that led me to believe she'd be against football and anything that hinted of the patriarchy. But it turns out I was pretty much wrong, unless she has transformed from when she first ascended to the roleHairyBallsDawg said:
For some odd reason I was reading it while listening to Rage Against the Machine and wondering who our next A.D. will be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Mari_Cauce
"Cauce was born in Havana, Cuba, to Vicente Cauce, minister of education under Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista, and Ana Cauce (née Vivanco).[4] When she was three years old, her family, including her brother César, fled the island during the Cuban revolution. She grew up in Miami, Florida, where her father, who held a PhD, worked first as a custodian. Eventually both parents worked in a shoe factory.[5]"
"In 1979, Cauce's older brother, César Cauce, a well-known communist activist, was killed in the Greensboro massacre.[11] He and the other three white male victims were buried in Greensboro at a traditionally black cemetery.[12]"
My UW TA who is Cuban reiterated these points to me at the top of her lungs from the standing position on a chair while we were in Mexico when the subject came up. Csb. -
I wish, she was Caliente.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Pics?UW_Doog_Bot said:
With Cubans it is a binary either you are or aren't a commie. Lots of family civil wars go on on the subject.NorwegianHusky said:
Cuban is a nationality, not ethnicity. My point was she doesn't have any communist roots. Her dad worked for Batista, the guy the communists overthrew, and her family fled after the communists took over. Seems her brother decided to become a communist anyway, but I don't see how that makes her one.DerekJohnson said:
No... I never mentioned ethnicity. I mentioned her Communist roots. Multiple posters in this thread struggling with reading comprehension.NorwegianHusky said:
Because she's Cuban? Expats who fled Cuba aren't exactly known for being liberal. Miami Cubans are a pretty important Republican base in Florida. Pretty surprising that her brother was a commie tbh, there's no way their parents were if they worked for Batista and fled after the revolution.DerekJohnson said:
I mentioned and cited this when she got hired. It was this combined with her appearance that led me to believe she'd be against football and anything that hinted of the patriarchy. But it turns out I was pretty much wrong, unless she has transformed from when she first ascended to the roleHairyBallsDawg said:
For some odd reason I was reading it while listening to Rage Against the Machine and wondering who our next A.D. will be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Mari_Cauce
"Cauce was born in Havana, Cuba, to Vicente Cauce, minister of education under Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista, and Ana Cauce (née Vivanco).[4] When she was three years old, her family, including her brother César, fled the island during the Cuban revolution. She grew up in Miami, Florida, where her father, who held a PhD, worked first as a custodian. Eventually both parents worked in a shoe factory.[5]"
"In 1979, Cauce's older brother, César Cauce, a well-known communist activist, was killed in the Greensboro massacre.[11] He and the other three white male victims were buried in Greensboro at a traditionally black cemetery.[12]"
My UW TA who is Cuban reiterated these points to me at the top of her lungs from the standing position on a chair while we were in Mexico when the subject came up. Csb. -
Great questions ... my perception is leopard girl was hired (a long time ago) during the good old boy alumni era when schmoozing at events, one on one chats and greets, huskython cash grabs etc. was the thing ~ all of which I think she was good at during the era she was hired in.DerekJohnson said:
If she was so good at fundraising, why was she begging and pleading for money? Why aren't our financials in better shape?TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:That and the fact that she then hired a leopard print AD that seemed better suited to be in charge of Alumni Fundraising (what she had been hired for I think) than the AD position.
That worked out (maybe) better than that, but again, the concerns remain
Years later, the cash flow is now profoundly different
* for a generation, 1/2 of the kickoffs became night games which were announced 2 weeks before the game
* which killed the ability to plan
* which killed the enthusiasm for half of the 50 and up crowd
* which also killed regional fan game day participation
* which cut out of state fan participation in half
* all of the above , many of which were big time donors
* ticket sales, ticket prices and season ticked seat licensing went thru the floor
Throw in the miserable financing package for the stadium redo (who was responsible for that?, and the steady stream of below average coaches that couldn't recruit to save their lives and you are here.
No one would have guessed that tickets on the 40 would cost about the same as tickets to the movies ~ what a debacle. -
Also throw in the Sark/Woodward decision to start scheduling the likes of Sac State, Idaho State and Tulsa. Back in 2013-2016 I used to joke about UW scheduling Tulsa, and then lo and behold they did it!TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Great questions ... my perception is leopard girl was hired (a long time ago) during the good old boy alumni era when schmoozing at events, one on one chats and greets, huskython cash grabs etc. was the thing ~ all of which I think she was good at during the era she was hired in.DerekJohnson said:
If she was so good at fundraising, why was she begging and pleading for money? Why aren't our financials in better shape?TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:That and the fact that she then hired a leopard print AD that seemed better suited to be in charge of Alumni Fundraising (what she had been hired for I think) than the AD position.
That worked out (maybe) better than that, but again, the concerns remain
Years later, the cash flow is now profoundly different
* for a generation, 1/2 of the kickoffs became night games which were announced 2 weeks before the game
* which killed the ability to plan
* which killed the enthusiasm for half of the 50 and up crowd
* which also killed regional fan game day participation
* which cut out of state fan participation in half
* all of the above , many of which were big time donors
* ticket sales, ticket prices and season ticked seat licensing went thru the floor
Throw in the miserable financing package for the stadium redo (who was responsible for that?, and the steady stream of below average coaches that couldn't recruit to save their lives and you are here.
No one would have guessed that tickets on the 40 would cost about the same as tickets to the movies ~ what a debacle. -
3 of Sark’s best wins were against the likes of Idaho St and Portland State.DerekJohnson said:
Also throw in the Sark/Woodward decision to start scheduling the likes of Sac State, Idaho State and Tulsa. Back in 2013-2016 I used to joke about UW scheduling Tulsa, and then lo and behold they did it!TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Great questions ... my perception is leopard girl was hired (a long time ago) during the good old boy alumni era when schmoozing at events, one on one chats and greets, huskython cash grabs etc. was the thing ~ all of which I think she was good at during the era she was hired in.DerekJohnson said:
If she was so good at fundraising, why was she begging and pleading for money? Why aren't our financials in better shape?TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:That and the fact that she then hired a leopard print AD that seemed better suited to be in charge of Alumni Fundraising (what she had been hired for I think) than the AD position.
That worked out (maybe) better than that, but again, the concerns remain
Years later, the cash flow is now profoundly different
* for a generation, 1/2 of the kickoffs became night games which were announced 2 weeks before the game
* which killed the ability to plan
* which killed the enthusiasm for half of the 50 and up crowd
* which also killed regional fan game day participation
* which cut out of state fan participation in half
* all of the above , many of which were big time donors
* ticket sales, ticket prices and season ticked seat licensing went thru the floor
Throw in the miserable financing package for the stadium redo (who was responsible for that?, and the steady stream of below average coaches that couldn't recruit to save their lives and you are here.
No one would have guessed that tickets on the 40 would cost about the same as tickets to the movies ~ what a debacle. -
Absolutely ~ an the other long term major fuckup was the Pac pussy laden leadership deciding on the north south division nonsense with the outcome of the conference losing the USC, UCLA, Washington annual rivalry (and then later what would have turned into a rivalry with Oregun) which had been a significant feature and would have greatly improved our media contract situation.
This really is just a dead bodies stacked on top of dead bodies discussion list ~ so much of which was just so obvious as to be amazing. -
The other aspect of this is that UW used to have a really remarkable CFO ~ Frank Montgomery [a fun, charismatic and deadly serious professional guy that hailed from Rocky Top Tenn] and Frank was making a giant difference in guiding leadership to stay in the real fucking world and make better decisions. A trip to his office to discuss the declining business relationships in your area [all the way up the chain to the board level] without having a decent game plan was no bueno. And the guy was a killer negotiator, and mr sage enthusiasm as a contract grant business development local leadership facilitator. His check list of shit to get done got done. His departure into semi retirement and then full retiurement was another unseen domino in the slide all the way up to the board level that we have been watching.
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AMC is a pro-football cutthroat. I strongly agreed with the original apprehension about her because there is significant precedent at UW of upper campus being flagrantly anti-revenue sports, which directly and unarguably lead to the sabotage of the football program. Across multiple decades and multiple administrations. Cold skepticism is probably going to be my default here as long as I live. As others said, being Cuban didn't and shouldn't play into it at all because her tribe of Cubans are famously anti-communist. They also generally like football. Her brother's story is interesting and tragic, I had no idea. I defer to creep's expertise on this subject, of course. And to add to creep's point about AMC having way too much on her plate to get involved in the stadium debt stuff, she also is way too high up to have the time to overview shit like assistant coach contracts. I wish she did though...think she would have signed off, as Jen did, on that breathtakingly stupid 750k+ John Donovan contract? Competing against less than nothing for that clown's services lmao. Can I mention again how hilarious it is USC hired Cohen?
At this point though, if we solely judge AMC on the literal words she has said and the actions she has taken -- there is not much to complain about. What we know for sure has been confirmed by people like Caple and other trustworthy sources: AMC herself ran point on the B10 negotiations, without input from Cohen. AMC dragged Oregon along for better negotiating power when Oregon was getting cold feet and/or Phil was hesitant. AMC overruled Cohen and fired Jimmy Lake. AMC was directly and inexorably involved in Kalen's hiring, and sold Kalen that the entire upper administration was all-in on football.
Let's see what Kalen thinks about AMC. This entire interview is great, but the AMC stuff starts at 12:15:
https://youtu.be/LRAx93zsmEo?si=UPkKXK8h04n-Bnxu&t=735
