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An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAFhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8yT1GHoFiAw
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An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAFThe illegals should be shipped directly to Washington state from Texas. You guys can pay for their lawyers and provide food and housing for them since you're so passionate about it. Don't forget the schooling. Make sure to raise your property taxes enough to cover it.
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I have citations I can link, but i'm not going to unless you really want it.. Please man, think things through and read before you pop off. It's embarrassing. You're like most fucktards in this country who react to the news in front of them and don't use any critical thinking skills or do any research.
Many right wingers, and some left wingers, oppose looser immigration policies... That is a slap in the face to what liberty and freedom mean and what America stands for.
As I stated before:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door"
Restrictions on immigration are a restriction of freedom, and I'm not sure why so many so called patriots support them. Maybe it's because they assume that immigrants are welfare cases and bad for American wages, employment, and the economy in general. Not true in most cases....
People come to America for a better life, not to live on welfare. A paper from Cato Institute (that's my source? yes) found that poor immigrants and their children (both legal and illegal) use public benefits at a lower rate than the U.S. born poor. Also, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and the Manhattan Institute found that immigrants have a much higher labor force participation rate than those born in the United States , meaning that immigrants come to the states to work, not to collect government benefits.
While people think that immigrants are tremendous costs to the government, the Congressional Budget Office says otherwise:
"Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that. over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use."
People, especially right wingers, claim that immigrants reduce wages and employment, but not so fast . According to Fact Check.org:
“There is broad agreement among economists that while immigrants may push down wages for some (high school drop outs) , the overall effect is to increase average wages for American-born workers"
Research from labor economist Giovanni Peri and others states:
"The effect of immigration on U.S. born employment is positive." and " Statistical analysis of state-level data shows that immigrants expand the economy’s productive capacity by stimulating investment and promoting specialization. This produces efficiency gains and boosts income per worker. At the same time, evidence is scant that immigrants diminish the employment opportunities of U.S.-born workers."
There isn't strong economic case against looser immigration laws. Consider the fact that when a Mexican worker comes to America, his wages more than double . If you were in his/her position, wouldn't you want to come to America, which is a land of opportunity?
It's hypocritical people seriously want to engage in closed border policies considering the ancestors of European Americans came to America for better lives, yet many would deny that same opportunity to people in Latin America. Nevermind the fact that closed border policies would, according to recent research, make the U.S. born worse off.
I haven't even started on the failed war on drugs and how that plays into all of this...
The research suggests that none of the economic claims made by knee jerk reaction retards like OBK are true.
now good day sir!!
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An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAF
What I would want if I were in his position is irrelevant. I think Switzerland is far superior to the United States and I would rather live there. Maybe I should show up at their border and enter illegally and expect them to pay for my legal representation while I'm taking advantage of their system. Then after they decide that I have indeed broken their laws (because it wasn't already obvious to all but the thickest retard, so lets all stand on pretense and go through the motions and take it through the courts), they can pay my deportation expenses and give me a free flight back to the United States.MikeDamone said:
There isn't strong economic case against looser immigration laws. Consider the fact that when a Mexican worker comes to America, his wages more than double . If you were in his/her position, wouldn't you want to come to America, which is a land of opportunity? -
jesus.. That's your response?oregonblitzkrieg said:
What I would want if I were in his position is irrelevant. I think Switzerland is far superior to the United States and I would rather live there. Maybe I should show up at their border and enter illegally and expect them to pay for my legal representation while I'm taking advantage of their system. Then after they decide that I have indeed broken their laws (because it wasn't already obvious to all but the thickest retard, so lets all stand on pretense and go through the motions and take it through the courts), they can pay my deportation expenses and give me a free flight back to the United States.MikeDamone said:
There isn't strong economic case against looser immigration laws. Consider the fact that when a Mexican worker comes to America, his wages more than double . If you were in his/her position, wouldn't you want to come to America, which is a land of opportunity? -
An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAFJudging by the way OBK likes to try to cherry pick facts, I'm guessing he lost his agricultural job to an immigrant.
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I swear. I try to help him and actually spent a fair amount of time on my response. But if he isn't even going to try, I give up.PurpleJ said:Judging by the way OBK likes to try to cherry pick facts, I'm guessing he lost his agricultural job to an immigrant.
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SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON.MikeDamone said:I have citations I can link, but i'm not going to unless you really want it.. Please man, think things through and read before you pop off. It's embarrassing. You're like most fucktards in this country who react to the news in front of them and don't use any critical thinking skills or do any research.
Many right wingers, and some left wingers, oppose looser immigration policies... That is a slap in the face to what liberty and freedom mean and what America stands for.
As I stated before:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door"
Restrictions on immigration are a restriction of freedom, and I'm not sure why so many so called patriots support them. Maybe it's because they assume that immigrants are welfare cases and bad for American wages, employment, and the economy in general. Not true in most cases....
People come to America for a better life, not to live on welfare. A paper from Cato Institute (that's my source? yes) found that poor immigrants and their children (both legal and illegal) use public benefits at a lower rate than the U.S. born poor. Also, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and the Manhattan Institute found that immigrants have a much higher labor force participation rate than those born in the United States , meaning that immigrants come to the states to work, not to collect government benefits.
While people think that immigrants are tremendous costs to the government, the Congressional Budget Office says otherwise:
"Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that. over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use."
People, especially right wingers, claim that immigrants reduce wages and employment, but not so fast . According to Fact Check.org:
“There is broad agreement among economists that while immigrants may push down wages for some (high school drop outs) , the overall effect is to increase average wages for American-born workers"
Research from labor economist Giovanni Peri and others states:
"The effect of immigration on U.S. born employment is positive." and " Statistical analysis of state-level data shows that immigrants expand the economy’s productive capacity by stimulating investment and promoting specialization. This produces efficiency gains and boosts income per worker. At the same time, evidence is scant that immigrants diminish the employment opportunities of U.S.-born workers."
There isn't strong economic case against looser immigration laws. Consider the fact that when a Mexican worker comes to America, his wages more than double . If you were in his/her position, wouldn't you want to come to America, which is a land of opportunity?
It's hypocritical people seriously want to engage in closed border policies considering the ancestors of European Americans came to America for better lives, yet many would deny that same opportunity to people in Latin America. Nevermind the fact that closed border policies would, according to recent research, make the U.S. born worse off.
I haven't even started on the failed war on drugs and how that plays into all of this...
The research suggests that none of the economic claims made by knee jerk reaction retards like OBK are true.
now good day sir!!
I SAID GOOD DAY!!! -
An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAF
You exited the debate like you always do. Thinking you are this:MikeDamone said:
jesus.. That's your response?oregonblitzkrieg said:
What I would want if I were in his position is irrelevant. I think Switzerland is far superior to the United States and I would rather live there. Maybe I should show up at their border and enter illegally and expect them to pay for my legal representation while I'm taking advantage of their system. Then after they decide that I have indeed broken their laws (because it wasn't already obvious to all but the thickest retard, so lets all stand on pretense and go through the motions and take it through the courts), they can pay my deportation expenses and give me a free flight back to the United States.MikeDamone said:
There isn't strong economic case against looser immigration laws. Consider the fact that when a Mexican worker comes to America, his wages more than double . If you were in his/her position, wouldn't you want to come to America, which is a land of opportunity?
It's a waste of energy to respond to your points, as you already have everything dialed in and figured out. If you don't agree with something, you will arrogantly dismiss it. Your positions are sturdier than the foundations of the Earth.
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An anti-American leach on the taxpayer that needs to DIAF
That post was me giving up on the argument. It's like arguing with a cartoon character.MikeDamone said:
I swear. I try to help him and actually spent a fair amount of time on my response. But if he isn't even going to try, I give up.PurpleJ said:Judging by the way OBK likes to try to cherry pick facts, I'm guessing he lost his agricultural job to an immigrant.
