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https://washingtonstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/the-pac-12-pre-nup….26208/

No member shall deliver a notice of withdrawal to the Conference in the period beginning on July 24, 2011, and ending on August 1, 2024; provided, that if any member does deliver a notice of withdrawal prior to August 1, 2024, in violation of this chapter,



Hey idiot Cougs: Washington, Oregon, USC, and UCLA aren’t withdrawing prior to 8/1/2024.

These idiots think they are entitled to a big pool of money, but that isn’t happening because nobody is leaving the conference prior to 8/1/2024.
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  • Arc
    Arc Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2023
    Yeah, I was reading that thread. Some of them seem convinced that a notice of withdrawal has been delivered (verbally or otherwise) and that entitles the remaining schools to all of the money. I'm pretty sure that is not how it works, but whatever, let them hold onto that final straw of hope. Also, if that were really the case, any remaining Pac school cannot leave or even announce their intention to leave until August 2024 and doing that could really be a bad move in the long term.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Arc said:

    Yeah, I was reading that thread. Some of them seem convinced that a notice of withdrawal has been delivered (verbally or otherwise) and that entitles the remaining schools to all of the money. I'm pretty sure that is not how it works, but whatever, let them hold onto that final straw of hope. Also, if that were really the case, any remaining Pac school cannot leave or even announce their intention to leave until August 2024 and doing that could really be a bad move in the long term.

    So if we give notice that "we're leaving the Pac-12 on 8/1/2024" before 8/1/2024, that means we're leaving before 8/1/2024?
  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    Arc said:

    Yeah, I was reading that thread. Some of them seem convinced that a notice of withdrawal has been delivered (verbally or otherwise) and that entitles the remaining schools to all of the money. I'm pretty sure that is not how it works, but whatever, let them hold onto that final straw of hope.

    If the idiots get their way and they sit on their asses waiting for a magical pot of gold next August, there is no hope. No gold, no future conference, no 2024 football schedule.

    Pro tip for Coug fans:

    Washington, Oregon, USC, and UCLA have law schools. You don’t. These schools know what they are doing, which is why nobody is leaving prior to 8/24 and why stubborn, stupid Cougs get nothing which is why they need to hurry up and join another conference.
  • Arc
    Arc Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115 Swaye's Wigwam

    Arc said:

    Yeah, I was reading that thread. Some of them seem convinced that a notice of withdrawal has been delivered (verbally or otherwise) and that entitles the remaining schools to all of the money. I'm pretty sure that is not how it works, but whatever, let them hold onto that final straw of hope. Also, if that were really the case, any remaining Pac school cannot leave or even announce their intention to leave until August 2024 and doing that could really be a bad move in the long term.

    So if we give notice that "we're leaving the Pac-12 on 8/1/2024" before 8/1/2024, that means we're leaving before 8/1/2024?
    Through a combination of coug logic and desperation, I can totally see how someone can get to this conclusion.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    CascadiaCoug and CougaFagra are embarrassing and always have been.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,045
    This thread is a meaningless bandwidth massacre until our resident coug lawyer chimes in. Amirite, @creepycoug?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    8 schools are heading to other conferences after the 2024 season and contract is up.

    They tried to make it work for over a year.

    What does WSU think they have a case for?

    How is a school supposed to leave?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    On August 1 2024 the Pac-12 does not exist. The contract has expired. You can't leave what doesn't exist. The schools which are gone have announced what they are doing on August 1 2024. That's it.

    Coug-ing until the end

    They're really going to try and squeeze money out of this for a year+, aren't they.

    Even with the UC system situation many people think UCLA will end up having to give nothing.
  • TomRinaldisPiano
    TomRinaldisPiano Member Posts: 92
    Someone (guess who) at Montlake "promised" WSUs AD UW wouldn't leave without WSU. Said individual also vouched for Larry Scott, calling him "innovative." PAC-12 schools would see abundant riches from streaming (lol)...."Coming out of my cage
    And I've been doing just fine..."
  • fivehundredmileDAWG
    fivehundredmileDAWG Member Posts: 1,212
    They get all of the money minus the $70 mil that goes to Comcast.

    Congrats
  • Arc
    Arc Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115 Swaye's Wigwam


    It is a guarantee dough, but WSU leaders and others have a conference mind-set.

    What is this guy's first language?
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941
    LawCoug1, true?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,148 Standard Supporter
    Wilner says:

    Our reading of the bylaws indicates the eight outgoing schools could be entitled to their standard revenue shares for the 2023-24 sports season, which would greatly diminish the available funds for the continuing members.

    Here’s the applicable section on rules governing withdrawal:

    “No member shall deliver a notice of withdrawal to the Conference in the period beginning on July 24, 2011, and ending on August 1, 2024; provided, that if any member does deliver a notice of withdrawal prior to August 1, 2024, in violation of this chapter, the Conference shall be entitled to an injunction and other equitable relief to prevent such breach,

    “and if a court of competent jurisdiction shall deny the Conference such injunctive relief, the Conference shall be entitled to retain all the media and sponsorship rights in the multi-player video distribution (MPVD) and telecommunications/wireless categories of the member purporting to withdraw through August 1, 2024, even if the member is then a member of another conference or an independent school for some or all intercollegiate sports competitions.

    “Additionally, if a member delivers notice of withdrawal in violation of this chapter, the member’s representative to the CEO Group shall automatically cease to be a member of the CEO Group and shall cease to have the right to vote on any matter before the CEO Group.”

    Could the revenue be withheld? Final judgment undoubtedly will be rendered by the lawyers, who must determine “the real damages” inflicted upon the four remaining schools, according to a source.

    But this much is known: The Pac-12 finished the 2022 fiscal year with $42.7 million in net assets, which includes the emergency reserve funds controlled by the presidents — the presidents of the four remaining schools.

    What about the liabilities?

    Our assumption is the payments due Comcast will be deducted from the campus distributions to all 12 schools in the spring, removing them from the books beyond June 30, 2024.

    But the technological infrastructure underpinning the Pac-12 Networks must be accounted for; the same goes for the lease on the new property in San Ramon.

    The Pac-12’s chief financial officer, Morane Kerek, who was hired in June, has a busy few weeks ahead.

    And one more point:

    If desired, the four schools could attempt to play the hardest of hardball and declare the eight outgoing members ineligible for Pac-12 titles in 2023-24 — and thus any automatic bids to NCAA championships.

    There is precedent for such action. In 2012, the Colonial Athletic Association declared its three departing members, VCU, George State and Old Dominion, ineligible for championships.

    We’re skeptical Stanford, Cal, WSU and OSU would take that step.

    But like everything else, it’s on the spectrum of possibilities during this tumultuous stretch.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Wilner says:

    Our reading of the bylaws indicates the eight outgoing schools could be entitled to their standard revenue shares for the 2023-24 sports season, which would greatly diminish the available funds for the continuing members.

    Here’s the applicable section on rules governing withdrawal:

    “No member shall deliver a notice of withdrawal to the Conference in the period beginning on July 24, 2011, and ending on August 1, 2024; provided, that if any member does deliver a notice of withdrawal prior to August 1, 2024, in violation of this chapter, the Conference shall be entitled to an injunction and other equitable relief to prevent such breach,

    “and if a court of competent jurisdiction shall deny the Conference such injunctive relief, the Conference shall be entitled to retain all the media and sponsorship rights in the multi-player video distribution (MPVD) and telecommunications/wireless categories of the member purporting to withdraw through August 1, 2024, even if the member is then a member of another conference or an independent school for some or all intercollegiate sports competitions.

    “Additionally, if a member delivers notice of withdrawal in violation of this chapter, the member’s representative to the CEO Group shall automatically cease to be a member of the CEO Group and shall cease to have the right to vote on any matter before the CEO Group.”

    Could the revenue be withheld? Final judgment undoubtedly will be rendered by the lawyers, who must determine “the real damages” inflicted upon the four remaining schools, according to a source.

    But this much is known: The Pac-12 finished the 2022 fiscal year with $42.7 million in net assets, which includes the emergency reserve funds controlled by the presidents — the presidents of the four remaining schools.

    What about the liabilities?

    Our assumption is the payments due Comcast will be deducted from the campus distributions to all 12 schools in the spring, removing them from the books beyond June 30, 2024.

    But the technological infrastructure underpinning the Pac-12 Networks must be accounted for; the same goes for the lease on the new property in San Ramon.

    The Pac-12’s chief financial officer, Morane Kerek, who was hired in June, has a busy few weeks ahead.

    And one more point:

    If desired, the four schools could attempt to play the hardest of hardball and declare the eight outgoing members ineligible for Pac-12 titles in 2023-24 — and thus any automatic bids to NCAA championships.

    There is precedent for such action. In 2012, the Colonial Athletic Association declared its three departing members, VCU, George State and Old Dominion, ineligible for championships.

    We’re skeptical Stanford, Cal, WSU and OSU would take that step.

    But like everything else, it’s on the spectrum of possibilities during this tumultuous stretch.

  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    Wilner says:

    Our reading of the bylaws indicates the eight outgoing schools could be entitled to their standard revenue shares for the 2023-24 sports season, which would greatly diminish the available funds for the continuing members.

    Here’s the applicable section on rules governing withdrawal:

    “No member shall deliver a notice of withdrawal to the Conference in the period beginning on July 24, 2011, and ending on August 1, 2024; provided, that if any member does deliver a notice of withdrawal prior to August 1, 2024, in violation of this chapter, the Conference shall be entitled to an injunction and other equitable relief to prevent such breach,

    “and if a court of competent jurisdiction shall deny the Conference such injunctive relief, the Conference shall be entitled to retain all the media and sponsorship rights in the multi-player video distribution (MPVD) and telecommunications/wireless categories of the member purporting to withdraw through August 1, 2024, even if the member is then a member of another conference or an independent school for some or all intercollegiate sports competitions.

    “Additionally, if a member delivers notice of withdrawal in violation of this chapter, the member’s representative to the CEO Group shall automatically cease to be a member of the CEO Group and shall cease to have the right to vote on any matter before the CEO Group.”

    Could the revenue be withheld? Final judgment undoubtedly will be rendered by the lawyers, who must determine “the real damages” inflicted upon the four remaining schools, according to a source.

    But this much is known: The Pac-12 finished the 2022 fiscal year with $42.7 million in net assets, which includes the emergency reserve funds controlled by the presidents — the presidents of the four remaining schools.

    What about the liabilities?

    Our assumption is the payments due Comcast will be deducted from the campus distributions to all 12 schools in the spring, removing them from the books beyond June 30, 2024.

    But the technological infrastructure underpinning the Pac-12 Networks must be accounted for; the same goes for the lease on the new property in San Ramon.

    The Pac-12’s chief financial officer, Morane Kerek, who was hired in June, has a busy few weeks ahead.

    And one more point:

    If desired, the four schools could attempt to play the hardest of hardball and declare the eight outgoing members ineligible for Pac-12 titles in 2023-24 — and thus any automatic bids to NCAA championships.

    There is precedent for such action. In 2012, the Colonial Athletic Association declared its three departing members, VCU, George State and Old Dominion, ineligible for championships.

    We’re skeptical Stanford, Cal, WSU and OSU would take that step.

    But like everything else, it’s on the spectrum of possibilities during this tumultuous stretch.

    America would love watching an 8-5 beaver team with 2 wins over the coug play in the rose bowl. What could possibly go wrong?
  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    “No member shall deliver a notice of withdrawal to the Conference in the period beginning on July 24, 2011, and ending on August 1, 2024; provided, that if any member does deliver a notice of withdrawal prior to August 1, 2024, in violation of this chapter, the Conference shall be entitled to an injunction and other equitable relief to prevent such breach,


    Who is leaving before 8/1/2024? I think it is clear that all schools who are leaving are leaving after that date, hence no leprechaun treasure for Cuog.

    Also, since nobody is leaving until after that date, how’s it possible for the schools left out to change the rules? Their 4 votes don’t supersede the other 8, until after 8/1/2024.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    Go ahead and be petty. No one will give a shit when Troy Taylor cucks a 7-5 beavlet team.