Nagursky/Outland Watch List
The watch lists continue to roll out, with the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA) announcing its 81-player preseason watch list for the Bronco Nagurski Trophy, which is awarded annually by the FWAA to whom they feel is the nation’s top defensive player.
Washington is one of two teams (Stanford is the other) to land four players on the watch list: OLB Hau’oli Kikaha, CB Marcus Peters, DT Danny Shelton and LB Shaq Thompson.
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Loaded on D.
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Hopefully there's just enough edgy players left for CP.Swaye said:Loaded on D.
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When was the last time we had 4 dudes (out of 81 nationally) on this list? Damn. That's pretty well stacked. I bet over at Doogfarm some idiot is talking about how young we are, and that we need more time.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hopefully there's just enough edgy players left for CP.Swaye said:Loaded on D.
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Washington is one of two teams (Stanford is the other) to land four players on the watch list:
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Comparing the front 7 of 2014 to 2000. 2000 Depth chart: http://www.gohuskies.com/fls/30200/old_site/pdf/m-footbl/2000-depthchart.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=30200
DE: Kikaha/ Roberson, Julian Edge: 2014
DT: E. Hudson/ Tripplet Edge: 2000
NT: Shelton/ Hatem Edge: 2014
DE/OLB: Littleton/ Pharms Edge: 2000
OLB: Feeney/ Kelley Edge: 2014
MLB: Timu/ Daniels Edge: 2000
OLB: Shaq/ Williams Edge: 2014
I would say the front 7 is better now than in 2000. Kikaha and Littleton is a far superior pass rushing combo to Pharms and Roberson. The DT's are a close call. I give a slight edge to Tripplet over Shelton because of the plays he made in opposing backfields. I like Shelton, but he's never dominated like Tripplet did in 2000 against Miami and Colorado. He won us the game against Colorado. He also had the huge play against Oregon State. I will take the playmaking DT over a massive run stopper, especially in college football. Tripplet makes it a tough call, but I think the 2014 DL is slightly better overall.
The 2014 LB's are far superior to 2000. Daniels is probably a tad better than Timu (at least more consistent). The other two are no contest. The depth of this year's team should be better too. On the DL we have Andrew Hudson, Mathis, Farria, and Qualls. At LB, I've heard Berria is a stud and I know the coaches like Victor and O'Brien too.
Swaye is right. The defense is loaded. If we can get even average DB play, and we already have an All conference CB, this defense can be very good. More_Time and some others will be rubbing it in that we got better on defense once Wilcox left. The secondary might not even be bad, it's just inexperienced. Having 4 dreckfest non conference games is perfect to get that group some confidence. -
The 2000 defense was far from great.RoadDawg55 said:Comparing the front 7 of 2014 to 2000. 2000 Depth chart: http://www.gohuskies.com/fls/30200/old_site/pdf/m-footbl/2000-depthchart.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=30200
DE: Kikaha/ Roberson, Julian Edge: 2014
DT: E. Hudson/ Tripplet Edge: 2000
NT: Shelton/ Hatem Edge: 2014
DE/OLB: Littleton/ Pharms Edge: 2000
OLB: Feeney/ Kelley Edge: 2014
MLB: Timu/ Daniels Edge: 2000
OLB: Shaq/ Williams Edge: 2014
I would say the front 7 is better now than in 2000. Kikaha and Littleton is a far superior pass rushing combo to Pharms and Roberson. The DT's are a close call. I give a slight edge to Tripplet over Shelton because of the plays he made in opposing backfields. I like Shelton, but he's never dominated like Tripplet did in 2000 against Miami and Colorado. He won us the game against Colorado. He also had the huge play against Oregon State. I will take the playmaking DT over a massive run stopper, especially in college football. Tripplet makes it a tough call, but I think the 2014 DL is slightly better overall.
The 2014 LB's are far superior to 2000. Daniels is probably a tad better than Timu (at least more consistent). The other two are no contest. The depth of this year's team should be better too. On the DL we have Andrew Hudson, Mathis, Farria, and Qualls. At LB, I've heard Berria is a stud and I know the coaches like Victor and O'Brien too.
Swaye is right. The defense is loaded. If we can get even average DB play, and we already have an All conference CB, this defense can be very good. More_Time and some others will be rubbing it in that we got better on defense once Wilcox left. The secondary might not even be bad, it's just inexperienced. Having 4 dreckfest non conference games is perfect to get that group some confidence.
I expect this defense to be significantly better than 2000. -
As Road says, rock solid front 7 (overall), and while the back 4 are inexperienced, they are anchored by one of the best CB's in the Pac-12.
OL might not be a steamroll group, but they should at least be decent, and above average with good coaching...if Kasen comes back okay, and we get good production out of Miles, no reason not to expect 10+ wins this year.
We have good to very good talent (more on D than O) and great leadership/coaching for the first time in 20 years. 10 wins minimum or gtfo. -
2000 defense was better. Akbar,#25, Vonture (best corner on earth if not for hearing voices in his helmet), Trip, Darrell Daniels, Pharms . Solid front to back. '14 only a little better up front because of Kikamora. Littleton just goes through the motions (pick any game from last year and watch...he's consistently inconsistant) Even Shaq was consistently inconsistent. Nez Perce Johnny still overruns and slips off every tackle.
Darrell Daniels tackled everything he touched, and if he happened to miss, #25 and Akbar would arrive for a beheading. Shaq should have stayed at safety. He'd be a 1st round pick after this year and our defense would have no questions going into next year. Feeney is an honors candidate just for discussion. -
Ok..that made me laughpuppylove_sugarsteel said:2000 defense was better. Akbar,#25, Vonture (best corner on earth if not for hearing voices in his helmet), Trip, Darrell Daniels, Pharms . Solid front to back. '14 only a little better up front because of Kikamora. Littleton just goes through the motions (pick any game from last year and watch...he's consistently inconsistant) Even Shaq was consistently inconsistent. Nez Perce Johnny still overruns and slips off every tackle.
Darrell Daniels tackled everything he touched, and if he happened to miss, #25 and Akbar would arrive for a beheading. Shaq should have stayed at safety. He'd be a 1st round pick after this year and our defense would have no questions going into next year. Feeney is an honors candidate just for discussion.
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lol at Kikamorapuppylove_sugarsteel said:2000 defense was better. Akbar,#25, Vonture (best corner on earth if not for hearing voices in his helmet), Trip, Darrell Daniels, Pharms . Solid front to back. '14 only a little better up front because of Kikamora. Littleton just goes through the motions (pick any game from last year and watch...he's consistently inconsistant) Even Shaq was consistently inconsistent. Nez Perce Johnny still overruns and slips off every tackle.
Darrell Daniels tackled everything he touched, and if he happened to miss, #25 and Akbar would arrive for a beheading. Shaq should have stayed at safety. He'd be a 1st round pick after this year and our defense would have no questions going into next year. Feeney is an honors candidate just for discussion.
