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What band or bands got held back by one member

El_KEl_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,097
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Some names that pop up often
Axl Rose
Layne Staley
Sid Vicious
Brian Jones
Peter Criss
Tom Scholtz
David Lee Roth
Someone other than Chris Squire in YES
Nikki Sixx

Who are some others??
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,349
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    CSNY
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    Fishpo31Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,252
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    Creative tension makes great art...

    The Beach Boys...Brian's descent into mental illness and dope, and Mike Love's descent into being a dope...

    EDIT: Brian was the driving force for their greatness, but also the reason for their decline, IMO...
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,620
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,926
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    Brian Jones is complicated in this regard. He was essential to their image and sound early on. All of the cool instrumentation on their 1966- 67 has a lot to do with Brian's playing.

    But from Beggar's on he was a huge drag. I believe he had a bad hand injury in '66 or '67 that hampered his playing. And drugs.
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    alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,849
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    YellowSnow said:

    Brian Jones is complicated in this regard. He was essential to their image and sound early on. All of the cool instrumentation on their 1966- 67 has a lot to do with Brian's playing.

    But from Beggar's on he was a huge drag. I believe he had a bad hand injury in '66 or '67 that hampered his playing. And drugs.

    Brian was a major dick. I can see why they kicked him out and didn’t care he died.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRz2djRnV8
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,926
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    Fishpo31 said:

    Creative tension makes great art...

    The Beach Boys...Brian's descent into mental illness and dope, and Mike Love's descent into being a dope...

    EDIT: Brian was the driving force for their greatness, but also the reason for their decline, IMO...

    Brian had become arguably a greater pop music genius that Lennon and McCartney by the time Good Vibrations was released in Oct 1966.

    But he wasn't mentally strong enough to do it all on his own.
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,866
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    Fishpo31 said:

    Creative tension makes great art...

    The Beach Boys...Brian's descent into mental illness and dope, and Mike Love's descent into being a dope...

    EDIT: Brian was the driving force for their greatness, but also the reason for their decline, IMO...


    Came here to post this. Brian had a talented band full of singers who harmonized very well and were pretty good musicians, yet wrote a bunch of experimental crap.

    Not sure what Brian's problem with Mike was, but the other members seemed to have no problem continuing to tour and make music with him, so I feel a lot of that is on Brian, too, even though I know there were other personal conflicts with Mike aside from that later on in the late 70s.
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    Fishpo31Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,252
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    YellowSnow said:

    Brian Jones is complicated in this regard. He was essential to their image and sound early on. All of the cool instrumentation on their 1966- 67 has a lot to do with Brian's playing.

    But from Beggar's on he was a huge drag. I believe he had a bad hand injury in '66 or '67 that hampered his playing. And drugs.

    IIRC, Anita Pallenberg injured Brian’s hand with her face…

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    Fishpo31Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,252
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    Fenderbender123 said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    Creative tension makes great art...

    The Beach Boys...Brian's descent into mental illness and dope, and Mike Love's descent into being a dope...

    EDIT: Brian was the driving force for their greatness, but also the reason for their decline, IMO...


    Came here to post this. Brian had a talented band full of singers who harmonized very well and were pretty good musicians, yet wrote a bunch of experimental crap.

    Not sure what Brian's problem with Mike was, but the other members seemed to have no problem continuing to tour and make music with him, so I feel a lot of that is on Brian, too, even though I know there were other personal conflicts with Mike aside from that later on in the late 70s.
    It was (is) Mike’s problem with Brian, regarding royalties…”Change a word, get a third”…
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,741
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    TSIO was held back by Dennis DeYoung from day 1
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,620
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    WilburHooksHands said:

    TSIO was held back by Dennis DeYoung from day 1

    If we can't disrespect the dead then who can we disrespect?
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,038
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    @DeLarry and I constantly discussed how to ditch @CFetters_Nacho_Lover since he couldn't keep time on the drums. But the band just faded into obscurity
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,879
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    DerekJohnson said:

    Honeybucket Buttfuck

    @DeLarry and I constantly discussed how to ditch @CFetters_Nacho_Lover since he couldn't keep time on the drums. But the band just faded into obscurity

    I was dealing with a nacho addiction and you bastards didn’t provide the support I needed!
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    El_KEl_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,097
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    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Honeybucket Buttfuck

    @DeLarry and I constantly discussed how to ditch @CFetters_Nacho_Lover since he couldn't keep time on the drums. But the band just faded into obscurity

    I was dealing with a nacho addiction and you bastards didn’t provide the support I needed!
    I think many of us fall back on and adhere to what we have been told by most people that they want us to respect their decision and give them privacy.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,543
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    WilburHooksHands said:

    TSIO was held back by Dennis DeYoung from day 1

    I was going to say the same thing about Styx
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