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Do you have faith in Pac-9 Commish George Kalashnikov?
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No I don't46XiJCAB said:
It's all about money until you have to haul your entire football program 4-5 times a year into the CT or ET zones and have players adapt to playing at what would be 9am for them. I see where it's not a huge problem maybe once a year but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Which is why the B1G is saying that they want to see how the SC/UCLA logistics work before moving on any additional WC teams.DerekJohnson said:
I liked adding the AZ schoolsRaceBannon said:The league died with the Pac 8
There's always a chance that a backlash could occur when the Big 10 teams sort out the economic and logistical nightmare of having two conference teams on the west coast. It could change sentiment for having UW and Oregon join later. I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk.haie said:
I'm listening to Furness right now. Other than the usual butthurt coug "IF WASHINGTON AND OREGON WERE GONE TO THE B1G THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY LEFT!!!" schtick, he's right about the response.BleachedAnusDawg said:
SDSU and Colorado are basically the same thing as far as dollars and eyes. SDSU is a better AD.haie said:After reading everything, the other schools knew Colorado was leaving and didn't care. But his response at Pac 12 media days has to be the dumbest fucking game plan for that question.
ATBS, PAC has never been able to control the narrative on this and is perpetually 5 steps behind. Had the media rights been completed earlier they could've brought SDSU onboard for far less money. SDSU's buyout is now doubled to $34 million because they took so damn long.
It doesn't matter how shitty the school is that left the conference. The narrative is PAC continues to lose.
Just immediately announce SDSU. The official Pac response was just more of the same which feeds the Big 12 grifters.
Washington and Oregon should just tell the league they need combined 60%+ of revenue, all games but 1-2 on linear or they're joining the Big 12 tomorrow.
But of course we know at UW and Oregon are getting into the B1G at probably 40-50 mil to start with.
As the US dollar continues to deteriorate, flying your tennis and golf teams from LA to East Lansing or New Jersey repeatedly will be seen as a liability46XiJCAB said:
It's all about money until you have to haul your entire football program 4-5 times a year into the CT or ET zones and have players adapt to playing at what would be 9am for them. I see where it's not a huge problem maybe once a year but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Which is why the B1G is saying that they want to see how the SC/UCLA logistics work before moving on any additional WC teams.DerekJohnson said:
I liked adding the AZ schoolsRaceBannon said:The league died with the Pac 8
There's always a chance that a backlash could occur when the Big 10 teams sort out the economic and logistical nightmare of having two conference teams on the west coast. It could change sentiment for having UW and Oregon join later. I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk.haie said:
I'm listening to Furness right now. Other than the usual butthurt coug "IF WASHINGTON AND OREGON WERE GONE TO THE B1G THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY LEFT!!!" schtick, he's right about the response.BleachedAnusDawg said:
SDSU and Colorado are basically the same thing as far as dollars and eyes. SDSU is a better AD.haie said:After reading everything, the other schools knew Colorado was leaving and didn't care. But his response at Pac 12 media days has to be the dumbest fucking game plan for that question.
ATBS, PAC has never been able to control the narrative on this and is perpetually 5 steps behind. Had the media rights been completed earlier they could've brought SDSU onboard for far less money. SDSU's buyout is now doubled to $34 million because they took so damn long.
It doesn't matter how shitty the school is that left the conference. The narrative is PAC continues to lose.
Just immediately announce SDSU. The official Pac response was just more of the same which feeds the Big 12 grifters.
Washington and Oregon should just tell the league they need combined 60%+ of revenue, all games but 1-2 on linear or they're joining the Big 12 tomorrow.
But of course we know at UW and Oregon are getting into the B1G at probably 40-50 mil to start with. -
No I don'tShit. In hindsight, GK was apparently able to do the nearly impossible (we shall see).
He now appears to be about (somewhat above) mid-way between that stupid fucker Larry Scott and the commissioner that the P12 needed to hire as LS's replacement.
I know the consensus is that the reported deal is lose, lose, lose for the P12/9 but he may have delayed the pain of taking it directly up the WAZZU.
The biggest knock I have with GK is he did NOTHING until it was too late.
Why did he not look at some kind of mega merger with the ACC and B12 when USC and UCLA decided to leave one year ago?
His inaction, or inability to actually lead the P12, is rightly responsible for the B12 being perceived as superior to the P12.
TLDR, he is better than anticipated but just not good enough.
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No I don't
The Athletic has had a few articles on the @Logistics of all this cross cuntry shit:DerekJohnson said:46XiJCAB said:
It's all about money until you have to haul your entire football program 4-5 times a year into the CT or ET zones and have players adapt to playing at what would be 9am for them. I see where it's not a huge problem maybe once a year but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Which is why the B1G is saying that they want to see how the SC/UCLA logistics work before moving on any additional WC teams.DerekJohnson said:
I liked adding the AZ schoolsRaceBannon said:The league died with the Pac 8
There's always a chance that a backlash could occur when the Big 10 teams sort out the economic and logistical nightmare of having two conference teams on the west coast. It could change sentiment for having UW and Oregon join later. I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk.haie said:
I'm listening to Furness right now. Other than the usual butthurt coug "IF WASHINGTON AND OREGON WERE GONE TO THE B1G THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY LEFT!!!" schtick, he's right about the response.BleachedAnusDawg said:
SDSU and Colorado are basically the same thing as far as dollars and eyes. SDSU is a better AD.haie said:After reading everything, the other schools knew Colorado was leaving and didn't care. But his response at Pac 12 media days has to be the dumbest fucking game plan for that question.
ATBS, PAC has never been able to control the narrative on this and is perpetually 5 steps behind. Had the media rights been completed earlier they could've brought SDSU onboard for far less money. SDSU's buyout is now doubled to $34 million because they took so damn long.
It doesn't matter how shitty the school is that left the conference. The narrative is PAC continues to lose.
Just immediately announce SDSU. The official Pac response was just more of the same which feeds the Big 12 grifters.
Washington and Oregon should just tell the league they need combined 60%+ of revenue, all games but 1-2 on linear or they're joining the Big 12 tomorrow.
But of course we know at UW and Oregon are getting into the B1G at probably 40-50 mil to start with.
As the US dollar continues to deteriorate, flying your tennis and golf teams from LA to East Lansing or New Jersey repeatedly will be seen as a liability46XiJCAB said:
It's all about money until you have to haul your entire football program 4-5 times a year into the CT or ET zones and have players adapt to playing at what would be 9am for them. I see where it's not a huge problem maybe once a year but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Which is why the B1G is saying that they want to see how the SC/UCLA logistics work before moving on any additional WC teams.DerekJohnson said:
I liked adding the AZ schoolsRaceBannon said:The league died with the Pac 8
There's always a chance that a backlash could occur when the Big 10 teams sort out the economic and logistical nightmare of having two conference teams on the west coast. It could change sentiment for having UW and Oregon join later. I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk.haie said:
I'm listening to Furness right now. Other than the usual butthurt coug "IF WASHINGTON AND OREGON WERE GONE TO THE B1G THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY LEFT!!!" schtick, he's right about the response.BleachedAnusDawg said:
SDSU and Colorado are basically the same thing as far as dollars and eyes. SDSU is a better AD.haie said:After reading everything, the other schools knew Colorado was leaving and didn't care. But his response at Pac 12 media days has to be the dumbest fucking game plan for that question.
ATBS, PAC has never been able to control the narrative on this and is perpetually 5 steps behind. Had the media rights been completed earlier they could've brought SDSU onboard for far less money. SDSU's buyout is now doubled to $34 million because they took so damn long.
It doesn't matter how shitty the school is that left the conference. The narrative is PAC continues to lose.
Just immediately announce SDSU. The official Pac response was just more of the same which feeds the Big 12 grifters.
Washington and Oregon should just tell the league they need combined 60%+ of revenue, all games but 1-2 on linear or they're joining the Big 12 tomorrow.
But of course we know at UW and Oregon are getting into the B1G at probably 40-50 mil to start with.
https://theathletic.com/4734532/2023/07/31/usc-ucla-big-ten-travel-schedules/For example, maybe the league can pair UCLA men’s soccer with USC women’s volleyball, and the two teams could charter together to play Northwestern and Illinois on the same weekend. Alternatively, they could fly commercial together and share buses. One other example of the minutiae of these travel considerations: In this scenario, the order of the L.A. teams’ games should be Illinois, followed by Northwestern. That way, those teams would end up much closer to O’Hare International Airport and could fly home directly after the games.
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The east-to-west flights back to L.A. will also help cap the total number of days of trips. Elliott said that in many cases there are more return trip options later in the day from airports such as Newark, Detroit and O’Hare than there have been when UCLA teams have been trying to get home from Pac-12 locales such as Pullman or Tucson. Plus, the time change allows athletes to get back from weekend action on a Sunday instead of a Monday and be able to make Monday classes.
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It’s likely much of the planning and execution of cross-country travel will surprise fans in and out of the league. The undertaking is unlike anything else in college sports, even as other conferences have expanded across time zones and into areas less accessible by major airport. No Division I conference stretches fully from the Pacific to the Atlantic Ocean. No one else has to figure out how Rutgers and USC will play a regular-season tennis match.
Penn State focus, which has no airport within a 90 minute drive capable of handling a plane large enough to fly a football team to the west coast (State College airport runway is too short for 737s to be fully loaded for a flight that long), and no airport within 3 hours drive of commercial flights to the west coast.
https://theathletic.com/4696457/2023/07/20/penn-state-usc-ucla-big-ten/For regular-season games, Penn State football charters a smaller plane that leaves from the University Park Airport. The equipment truck is loaded Thursday morning with everything players wear from head to toe, plus headsets, Gatorade, rain gear and anything the team may need. After the equipment staff cross-checks to be sure everything is on board, the truck departs on Thursday night and is driven to the team’s hotel and then to the stadium.
When Penn State visited USC in 1991 — the last time the Nittany Lions played the Trojans in a regular-season road game — the team flew out of Harrisburg International Airport (about a 100-mile bus ride away) with all of the equipment loaded on the plane.
For bowl games, Penn State typically first takes buses to Harrisburg so it can fly nonstop on a larger aircraft — the kind of planes that can accommodate an entire travel party complete with the coaching staff’s families.
The USC game in 1991 was one of only four times that the equipment was flown during Spider Caldwell’s 31 years as Penn State’s football equipment manager. The others: at Texas in 1989, at BYU in 1992 and the 1983 Aloha Bowl. Penn State of course had to fly equipment to Ireland for Franklin’s first game as Penn State’s head coach in 2014 after Caldwell retired from his equipment role.
“It’s miserable to fly equipment,” Caldwell said. “Myself and some student managers were literally under the plane in the cargo hold. We rode the conveyor belt up and you’re hauling trunks too, not just bags, but sideline trunks, and to make them fit you have to flip them and turn them upside down. Then, you have to make sure the weight in the plane is all balanced so you’re shifting stuff around.”
Unloading the equipment at the destination means using a trucking company that the equipment staff is not accustomed to working with. -
No I don'tIt's not unusual for different sports at a college to belong to different conferences. What I could see happening is sports that NGAFA stay in some kind of new PAC-12esque conference and football/basketball join the megaconferences.
