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Decline is a choice #∞

WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
Team Dazzler has slowly been killing off the US legal system. These are the same allegations that was used against the legal US tobacco industry. Rather than directly tax the manufactures or outlaw the product, just have corrupt judges and stupid jurors fine the hell out of them. So, a Multnomah County jury is to be allowed to assess $50 billion in damages for manufacturing oil and gas. Oregon can't get a carbon tax passed with huge democratic majorities in the Oregon House and Senate and a death hold on the governorship - but no problem, just skip the democracy part of democracy and go for lawfare. Just like the tobacco lawsuits should have been dismissed, this should be summarily dismissed. Team Dazzler would love to do the same thing with the US gun industry and hold the manufacturer liable for gun deaths that have nothing to do with product failure.



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  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,487
    edited June 2023
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    You notice that they aren't suing the chicoms or even mentioning them. We put out just 15% of the world's annual CO2 production and yet US oil producers and consumers are to be the ones to pay while the chicoms put out double our production and theirs is growing and ours is declining.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923
    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
    You lie every time you're here

    And you use oil like anyone else

    Cry some more bitch
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923
    edited June 2023

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter

    Cry some more bitch
    Ironic

    https://www.lung.org/research/sotc/by-the-numbers/10-appalling-tobacco-facts#:~:text=The tobacco companies "concealed and,smoking and sustain corporate revenues."

    9. The tobacco companies "falsely marketed and promoted low tar/light cigarettes as less harmful than full-flavor cigarettes in order to keep people smoking and sustain corporate revenues."

    8. The tobacco companies own internal records showed "that smokers switch to low tar/light cigarettes, rather than quit smoking because they believe they are less harmful."

    7. The tobacco companies "recognized that smokers choose light/low tar cigarettes for a perceived health benefit defendants internally recognized that smokers rely on the claims made for low tar/light cigarettes as an excuse/ rationale for not quitting smoking."


    But it’s okay to lie about this because Gasbag called cigarettes “coffin nails” when he was a kid.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club
    Drink some gasoline
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923

    Drink some gasoline

    The unleaded is pretty safe.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Big Pharma?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
    The issue is the sale of a legal product that everyone knows is harmful the manufacturer's problem? Legal means its legal. If Team Dazzler thinks it should be illegal, then do it. Or tax it. I've known hundreds of smokers and I don't know of one that thought it was healthy and should be made illegal. As for the manufacture and sale of gasoline, any user is just as "guilty" of killing the planet as Chevron. Pony up dazzler, it's the right thing to do and we know how much that matters to you.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
    The issue is the sale of a legal product that everyone knows is harmful the manufacturer's problem? Legal means its legal. If Team Dazzler thinks it should be illegal, then do it. Or tax it. I've known hundreds of smokers and I don't know of one that thought it was healthy and should be made illegal. As for the manufacture and sale of gasoline, any user is just as "guilty" of killing the planet as Chevron. Pony up dazzler, it's the right thing to do and we know how much that matters to you.
    Rock ribbed “capitalist conservative” is confused about who makes the product claims in the buyer and seller transaction. Looks bad for Oregon.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Big Pharma?
    Feel free.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Big Pharma?
    Feel free.
    Awesome
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
    The issue is the sale of a legal product that everyone knows is harmful the manufacturer's problem? Legal means its legal. If Team Dazzler thinks it should be illegal, then do it. Or tax it. I've known hundreds of smokers and I don't know of one that thought it was healthy and should be made illegal. As for the manufacture and sale of gasoline, any user is just as "guilty" of killing the planet as Chevron. Pony up dazzler, it's the right thing to do and we know how much that matters to you.
    Rock ribbed “capitalist conservative” is confused about who makes the product claims in the buyer and seller transaction. Looks bad for Oregon.
    Since 1964 the seller had a warning label on the product. I'm hardly the one that is confused. How many smokers did/do you know think that smoking is good for them? Certainly not any conservatives. Again, why didn't Team Dazzler step into the fray and outlaw cigarettes?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,945 Standard Supporter
    The HH's of the world haven't forced a warning label onto automobiles yet. You could crash! Airplanes can fall out of the sky! Motorcycles can be dangerous! Cracks in sidewalks need labels too!
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    The HH's of the world haven't forced a warning label onto automobiles yet. You could crash! Airplanes can fall out of the sky! Motorcycles can be dangerous! Cracks in sidewalks need labels too!

    In the Dazzler's world, sugar, fats, guns, alcohol, etc. would all be sued out of existence. That's what the oil and gas lawsuit is all about. Don't have the votes to make it illegal or get a huge national carbon tax, so just get a dirty judge and jury and let 13 people make up the rules instead of a state legislature or US Congress.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923

    Sledog said:

    The HH's of the world haven't forced a warning label onto automobiles yet. You could crash! Airplanes can fall out of the sky! Motorcycles can be dangerous! Cracks in sidewalks need labels too!

    In the Dazzler's world, sugar, fats, guns, alcohol, etc. would all be sued out of existence. That's what the oil and gas lawsuit is all about. Don't have the votes to make it illegal or get a huge national carbon tax, so just get a dirty judge and jury and let 13 people make up the rules instead of a state legislature or US Congress.
    I know you hate our system.

    We should be letting Daddy decide everything.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    The HH's of the world haven't forced a warning label onto automobiles yet. You could crash! Airplanes can fall out of the sky! Motorcycles can be dangerous! Cracks in sidewalks need labels too!

    In the Dazzler's world, sugar, fats, guns, alcohol, etc. would all be sued out of existence. That's what the oil and gas lawsuit is all about. Don't have the votes to make it illegal or get a huge national carbon tax, so just get a dirty judge and jury and let 13 people make up the rules instead of a state legislature or US Congress.
    I know you hate our system.

    We should be letting Daddy decide everything.
    If you define "Daddy" as your team, then you are all in on fascism. My copy of the Constitution has something about free speech. Apparently, the Michigan Communist Dem party has a different version.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    This Is The New Democrat Party...Indistinguishable From The Soviet Communist Party
    —CBD
    Care to bet how often this will be used to protect abortion protesters at Planned Parenthood abattoirs or parents protesting against grooming in their kids' kindergartens? Because those folks are regularly set upon, both verbally and physically, by the thugs of the Democrat party because of their religious principles or their sexual orientation (or is being normal not considered an orientation?).

    Michigan can now censor you if you hurt someone's feelings
    Michigan’s Democratic House passed legislation on Tuesday that enables attorneys to shut down “hate speech.” The new House Bill 4474 is a vague and unconstitutional censorship law that determines “feeling threatened” as reasonable grounds to prosecute offenders.
    The punishment for making someone “feel threatened” in Michigan is five years in jail and a $10,000 fine.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,923

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gasbag doesn't want to live in an America where manufacturers can't lie about their products.

    Big Tobacco was guilty as fuck. Big Oil? LIPO

    Everyone knew that smoking was unhealthy. Why didn't Team Fascist just ban cigarettes instead of putting a warning label on every pack of cigarettes. What has big oil been lying about? AOC wants to ban oil and gas. Why doesn't Team Fascist get on board with that? You drive. Your just as guilty as Chevron. Just like your taxes, you won't do the right thing unless the government puts a gun to your head. You suck at this.
    It’s really okay to lie because everyone knew some stuff.

    #Gasbag:ValuesVoter
    The issue is the sale of a legal product that everyone knows is harmful the manufacturer's problem? Legal means its legal. If Team Dazzler thinks it should be illegal, then do it. Or tax it. I've known hundreds of smokers and I don't know of one that thought it was healthy and should be made illegal. As for the manufacture and sale of gasoline, any user is just as "guilty" of killing the planet as Chevron. Pony up dazzler, it's the right thing to do and we know how much that matters to you.
    Rock ribbed “capitalist conservative” is confused about who makes the product claims in the buyer and seller transaction. Looks bad for Oregon.
    Since 1964 the seller had a warning label on the product. I'm hardly the one that is confused. How many smokers did/do you know think that smoking is good for them? Certainly not any conservatives. Again, why didn't Team Dazzler step into the fray and outlaw cigarettes?
    You seem desperate to defend the telling of lies. Makes sense. Daddy voter.
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