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LawDawg1
LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941
Anyone have any intel on Jen’s amazingly competent follow up vetting process after the last 2 directors of NIL? Or is the 1 committed recruit highlighting the obvious?
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,663 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    You guys are going to be fucking sweet this year (I have you winning the p12 and making the playoff). But whew, 2024 is gonna be really interesting unless the coaches pull a miracle out of their ass

    The guys who graduate and go on to the NFL won't get that money obviously, so they can offer it to *whoever* whether it's transfers or high school kids.

    But it's clear they don't want to give a bunch of cash to high school kids. And that's most likely reflected in UW's philosophy.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,226 Founders Club
    LawDawg1 said:

    Anyone have any intel on Jen’s amazingly competent follow up vetting process after the last 2 directors of NIL? Or is the 1 committed recruit highlighting the obvious?

    All I know is that the position has been open since March.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941

    LawDawg1 said:

    Anyone have any intel on Jen’s amazingly competent follow up vetting process after the last 2 directors of NIL? Or is the 1 committed recruit highlighting the obvious?

    All I know is that the position has been open since March.
    This is absurd.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,033 Founders Club
    Yikes...I think I missed but is what's her name's replacement already gone? Twitter suggests that and potential saltiness by retweeting stuff from departed players committing to other Pac-12 schools.

    Doesn't seem like that impossible of job but maybe you're set up for failure because of a lack of commitment from the skewl?
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941

    Yikes...I think I missed but is what's her name's replacement already gone? Twitter suggests that and potential saltiness by retweeting stuff from departed players committing to other Pac-12 schools.

    Doesn't seem like that impossible of job but maybe you're set up for failure because of a lack of commitment from the skewl?

    Replacement was disbarred from embezzling client finds or something like that. Quality vetting process.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    LawDawg1 said:

    Yikes...I think I missed but is what's her name's replacement already gone? Twitter suggests that and potential saltiness by retweeting stuff from departed players committing to other Pac-12 schools.

    Doesn't seem like that impossible of job but maybe you're set up for failure because of a lack of commitment from the skewl?

    Replacement was disbarred from embezzling client finds or something like that. Quality vetting process.
    She was just borrowing it...all of it.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,149 Standard Supporter
    LawDawg1 said:

    Yikes...I think I missed but is what's her name's replacement already gone? Twitter suggests that and potential saltiness by retweeting stuff from departed players committing to other Pac-12 schools.

    Doesn't seem like that impossible of job but maybe you're set up for failure because of a lack of commitment from the skewl?

    Replacement was disbarred from embezzling client finds or something like that. Quality vetting process.
    WTF? Where is a link for this story?
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941

    LawDawg1 said:

    Yikes...I think I missed but is what's her name's replacement already gone? Twitter suggests that and potential saltiness by retweeting stuff from departed players committing to other Pac-12 schools.

    Doesn't seem like that impossible of job but maybe you're set up for failure because of a lack of commitment from the skewl?

    Replacement was disbarred from embezzling client finds or something like that. Quality vetting process.
    WTF? Where is a link for this story?
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/questions-arise-after-former-uw-athletics-staffers-legal-issues-reach-king-county-superior-court/?amp=1
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    It's really sad to see how far the UW Athletic Department has fallen and the shroud of secrecy that they are allowed to operate in

    You can point to a number of different items that Jen has presided over in terms of just her hiring activity that is just flat out disastrous on an ADs resume

    I haven't seen any evidence that Jen and UW wasn't completely caught with their pants down at the LA school leaving and having literally zero Plan B's outside of the Big 10

    The NIL stuff ha largely been a joke the entire time ... but you have tons of people running interference and trying to say those being critical don't know what they are talking about (just look at the results)

    And on top of it all, Jen backdoored her way to the AD seat by talking behind Pool Boy's back at how he was managing the budget ... now Jen presides over a world where there is literally zero chance for her to not run the ICA's funding into the ground barring a life vest from the Big10
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,663 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    It's really sad to see how far the UW Athletic Department has fallen and the shroud of secrecy that they are allowed to operate in

    You can point to a number of different items that Jen has presided over in terms of just her hiring activity that is just flat out disastrous on an ADs resume

    I haven't seen any evidence that Jen and UW wasn't completely caught with their pants down at the LA school leaving and having literally zero Plan B's outside of the Big 10

    The NIL stuff ha largely been a joke the entire time ... but you have tons of people running interference and trying to say those being critical don't know what they are talking about (just look at the results)

    And on top of it all, Jen backdoored her way to the AD seat by talking behind Pool Boy's back at how he was managing the budget ... now Jen presides over a world where there is literally zero chance for her to not run the ICA's funding into the ground barring a life vest from the Big10

    Why would there be any evidence? It's publicly known that UW and Oregon had no clue what was going on.

    As to NIL, we brought back every eligible starter from an 11-2 team, including Rome.

    0% chance that happens with terrible NIL.

    They want proven players and there's more Petersen shit to the program than there is Tedford. It just is what it is. But that approach has brought a season that was much more fun than any of Petersen's seasons.

    Traditional High School recruiting is fucking dead and boring anyways. Who wants to be some CFB cuck fan that's creaming over a high school class one year and then cheering it on the next after they're all transferring and being replaced by the next class. Oregon and Texas A&M are paste eating dumb fuck schools.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,033 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's really sad to see how far the UW Athletic Department has fallen and the shroud of secrecy that they are allowed to operate in

    You can point to a number of different items that Jen has presided over in terms of just her hiring activity that is just flat out disastrous on an ADs resume

    I haven't seen any evidence that Jen and UW wasn't completely caught with their pants down at the LA school leaving and having literally zero Plan B's outside of the Big 10

    The NIL stuff ha largely been a joke the entire time ... but you have tons of people running interference and trying to say those being critical don't know what they are talking about (just look at the results)

    And on top of it all, Jen backdoored her way to the AD seat by talking behind Pool Boy's back at how he was managing the budget ... now Jen presides over a world where there is literally zero chance for her to not run the ICA's funding into the ground barring a life vest from the Big10

    Why would there be any evidence? It's publicly known that UW and Oregon had no clue what was going on.

    As to NIL, we brought back every eligible starter from an 11-2 team, including Rome.

    0% chance that happens with terrible NIL.

    They want proven players and there's more Petersen shit to the program than there is Tedford. It just is what it is. But that approach has brought a season that was much more fun than any of Petersen's seasons.

    Traditional High School recruiting is fucking dead and boring anyways. Who wants to be some CFB cuck fan that's creaming over a high school class one year and then cheering it on the next after they're all transferring and being replaced by the next class. Oregon and Texas A&M are paste eating dumb fuck schools.
    Lol. Guess we’ll see in 2024. Obviously the portal has changed the game but you still need to be able to recruit good HS kids. Relying on the portal for 75% of your starters seems like a losing strategy.
    This. I'm honestly pretty underwhelmed with what is in the transfer portal and I remember last year Twitter chatter with people talking about how UW was going to get a big QB fish in the portal until Penix came back then heard it was DJU which is a massive fucking thud.

    UW doesn't need to recruit like Oregon or A&M to succeed with Deboer moving forward but they have to recruit high school at a certain level.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's really sad to see how far the UW Athletic Department has fallen and the shroud of secrecy that they are allowed to operate in

    You can point to a number of different items that Jen has presided over in terms of just her hiring activity that is just flat out disastrous on an ADs resume

    I haven't seen any evidence that Jen and UW wasn't completely caught with their pants down at the LA school leaving and having literally zero Plan B's outside of the Big 10

    The NIL stuff ha largely been a joke the entire time ... but you have tons of people running interference and trying to say those being critical don't know what they are talking about (just look at the results)

    And on top of it all, Jen backdoored her way to the AD seat by talking behind Pool Boy's back at how he was managing the budget ... now Jen presides over a world where there is literally zero chance for her to not run the ICA's funding into the ground barring a life vest from the Big10

    Why would there be any evidence? It's publicly known that UW and Oregon had no clue what was going on.

    As to NIL, we brought back every eligible starter from an 11-2 team, including Rome.

    0% chance that happens with terrible NIL.

    They want proven players and there's more Petersen shit to the program than there is Tedford. It just is what it is. But that approach has brought a season that was much more fun than any of Petersen's seasons.

    Traditional High School recruiting is fucking dead and boring anyways. Who wants to be some CFB cuck fan that's creaming over a high school class one year and then cheering it on the next after they're all transferring and being replaced by the next class. Oregon and Texas A&M are paste eating dumb fuck schools.
    Lol. Guess we’ll see in 2024. Obviously the portal has changed the game but you still need to be able to recruit good HS kids. Relying on the portal for 75% of your starters seems like a losing strategy.
    Is it better to have 75% portal out?
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376
    i said this in the previous thread but im ok with the NIL 'leader' being a bit dirty.

    those peeps know how to do things the 'right way.'
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,033 Founders Club

    i said this in the previous thread but im ok with the NIL 'leader' being a bit dirty.

    those peeps know how to do things the 'right way.'

    I assume you want them to be like a sports agent. They want their clients to get more money because they get more of it. Everything about UW's athletic department's recent prowess though tells me this was instead someone who was skimming a few measly bucks off some rinky dink football camp, autograph signing, Softy $20 interviews shit.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    edited June 2023

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,663 Founders Club

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    I'm just numb to the 8 months of shitting pants over not having "lit" weekends in June and then when it's all said and done they're top 25 classes with solid transfer pickups. Polk hadn't done anything at Texas Tech. Slow footed Virginia running back comes in and pumps Kwiatkowski with blue chips.

    Jimmy Lake is the only real exception to that rule.

    It's dooging, but even with the ASU running back I trust the coaches.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,663 Founders Club
    edited June 2023
    ntxduck said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
    Who is a legit portal guy? Proven talent that got in trouble at his first school?

    It's all just random talent acquisition at this point. The fan knows even less than the clueless neck beard 247 guy now.

    Cooper Petagna saying, "Yeah, coaches will take a kid they know sucks because others think they're good just to bump their class rating" shows how fucking retarded this all is.

    Have an elite system and identify culture fit and guys who will play a role at a high level.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,693
    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777
    dannarc said:

    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now

    I believe deboer is smart enough to know exactly what he wants and what will work. Turning towelpopper into a highly productive back is a good sign to me.

    The portal is a big boon to guys that can evaluate well. Not just guys who stack bodies.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777
    dannarc said:

    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now

    The other part is keeping a legit team culture and getting new guys integrated and coached up.

    It’s going to be interesting to see the portal era dumpster fires around the country. I think deboer is good enough to actually run a strong program in this environment.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
    Who is a legit portal guy? Proven talent that got in trouble at his first school?

    It's all just random talent acquisition at this point. The fan knows even less than the clueless neck beard 247 guy now.

    Cooper Petagna saying, "Yeah, coaches will take a kid they know sucks because others think they're good just to bump their class rating" shows how fucking retarded this all is.

    Have an elite system and identify culture fit and guys who will play a role at a high level.
    Legit portal guys are a mix of super talented players from smaller schools that want to improve their nfl prospects, players looking to get out after a coaching change (or a qb change for wrs, where a good qb leaves And there’s no one left to get them the ball), or players who want to go win a title.

    If you look at the top 10 transfers on 247, 8/10 fit the above criteria. The #10 guy who went from Bama to Miami fits yours. Devin Leary, I have no idea why he transferred. Was the starter at nc state last year until he got hurt. Kentucky is sec (in name only) but their offense is historically terrible, so it’s not really an upgrade for him. Maybe he saw Levis play like absolute dog shit and still be a projected first round pick and thought that was enviable.