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I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.46XiJCAB said:
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote. -
So Trump knew he wasn’t winning so sat it out.Bob_C said:
Ron endorsed the Republican.46XiJCAB said:
Trump must not have endorsed the Republican. They always win when he does.Sledog said:
What happened in Jacksonville?46XiJCAB said:Race having a meltdown because RDS won the women vote in his last two elections and Trump lost them. But trust Race, Trump is gonna win them this tim.
In other news HuffPo mistakenly endorsed RDS today. They say he’s worse than Trump because he’s more informed, tactical and calculated.
He sings in one tune.
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.
At least RDS supported his party.
JFC.
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Sounds like Trump is a better candidate than Roncreepycoug said:
I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.46XiJCAB said:
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote.
I agree
Splitting the baby (lol) on abortion is a must for a GOP candidate.
Even religious women, and men, want the option if they need it. Never bet against human nature
First trimester is a winner. Run against abortion till birth that democrats espouse
That's far worse than the Trump approach but TDS is a helluva drug
If DeSantis is all that then fucking win and stop crying about Trump
I've asked numerous times why women would like Ron better and his fans or cult can only say but Trump
The both sides bullshit is a lie and a deflection -
RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
You're probably right. And, ISWYDT.RaceBannon said:
Sounds like Trump is a better candidate than Roncreepycoug said:
I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.46XiJCAB said:
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote.
I agree
Splitting the baby (lol) on abortion is a must for a GOP candidate.
Even religious women, and men, want the option if they need it. Never bet against human nature
First trimester is a winner. Run against abortion till birth that democrats espouse
That's far worse than the Trump approach but TDS is a helluva drug
If DeSantis is all that then fucking win and stop crying about Trump
I've asked numerous times why women would like Ron better and his fans or cult can only say but Trump
The both sides bullshit is a lie and a deflection
Also, which both sides? -
The whole Charlottesville thingcreepycoug said:RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
You're probably right. And, ISWYDT.RaceBannon said:
Sounds like Trump is a better candidate than Roncreepycoug said:
I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.46XiJCAB said:
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote.
I agree
Splitting the baby (lol) on abortion is a must for a GOP candidate.
Even religious women, and men, want the option if they need it. Never bet against human nature
First trimester is a winner. Run against abortion till birth that democrats espouse
That's far worse than the Trump approach but TDS is a helluva drug
If DeSantis is all that then fucking win and stop crying about Trump
I've asked numerous times why women would like Ron better and his fans or cult can only say but Trump
The both sides bullshit is a lie and a deflection
Also, which both sides?
The actual quote is benign. -
Eh, arguably. The quote is benign, technically. But it was surgical and deliberate. We'll probably agree to disagree about Charlottesville in general, which is the entire context of the quote. Don't get me wrong. I wasn't offended and it didn't make me go off the rails. But I'm confident that with a different political strategy Trump would have entertaining things to say about that particular rally. As it was, he was careful. Nothing wrong with that.RaceBannon said:
The whole Charlottesville thingcreepycoug said:RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
You're probably right. And, ISWYDT.RaceBannon said:
Sounds like Trump is a better candidate than Roncreepycoug said:
I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.46XiJCAB said:
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.RaceBannon said:
See?creepycoug said:
And has blood on his hands to prove it.RaceBannon said:
Trump got Roe back to the states. Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law46XiJCAB said:
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.RaceBannon said:
So are elections in 202246XiJCAB said:
Polls in May 2023 are fun!RaceBannon said:
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote.
I agree
Splitting the baby (lol) on abortion is a must for a GOP candidate.
Even religious women, and men, want the option if they need it. Never bet against human nature
First trimester is a winner. Run against abortion till birth that democrats espouse
That's far worse than the Trump approach but TDS is a helluva drug
If DeSantis is all that then fucking win and stop crying about Trump
I've asked numerous times why women would like Ron better and his fans or cult can only say but Trump
The both sides bullshit is a lie and a deflection
Also, which both sides?
The actual quote is benign. -
99 of 113 Republicans in the FL legislature have signed a doc to endorse RDS. Only one of the remaining 14 has endorsed Trump.
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Same people who think 6 week abortion bans is a good idea. Those people?46XiJCAB said:99 of 113 Republicans in the FL legislature have signed a doc to endorse RDS. Only one of the remaining 14 has endorsed Trump.
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Trump’s team says RDS is terrorizing them by threatening to veto legislation. Hence the votes. Those “guys” apparently want to endorse Trump.Bob_C said:
Same people who think 6 week abortion bans is a good idea. Those people?46XiJCAB said:99 of 113 Republicans in the FL legislature have signed a doc to endorse RDS. Only one of the remaining 14 has endorsed Trump.
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Now do the congress people
Oops
DeSantis is a great governor. He should stick with that since he just got re elected
