Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Since late last year, Donald Trump has been holding private meetings with religious-right figures in an effort to remind them about his anti-abortion record and ensure their support. But instead of thanking Trump for his role in repealing Roe v. Wade, the leaders are pressing for hardcore commitments that go far beyond what he is comfortable with — and what he thinks voters will allow him to get away with.
According to two participants and another source close to Trump, the ex-president has warned leaders in off-the-record conversations that Republicans risk “losing big” — in Trump’s words — unless they follow his lead. He has warned the leaders to shift their own messaging, telling them to emphasize “exceptions” to abortion bans, including in cases of rape, incest, or a threat to the life of the mother. In these frank talks, Trump has stressed this is his 2024 plan, saying it’s necessary to prevent Democrats from painting him as an “extremist.”
Privately, Trump is conceding those big losses have already begun. Trump has for several weeks vented to confidants that the GOP is “getting killed on abortion” or on “the abortion issue,” according to three people who’ve heard him use this phrasing on different occasions.
During his meetings, when pressed on what specifically he’d support in a second term, Trump has instead focused on his record as the “most pro-life” president in U.S. history. Among the anti-abortion leaders, religious conservatives, and politically active pastors gathered, Trump’s retroactive focus has left some unsatisfied, including anti-abortion advocates who previously endorsed him. Indeed, during one of these conference calls held around early March, one of the participants gently told Trump that his 2024 policy commitments were vague, requesting clarity and specifics. Trump responded by boasting about his past accomplishments, according to two of the sources.
Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.
Are we still for democracy or no?
Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men
Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea
This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
Dazzler seems to forget about the whole states rights thing.
Except when it is Jay Chinslee and his merry band of progressive legislators. Fuck those guys and their midnight shenanigans making it a crime for parents to refuse sex change operations on their 6 year olds. And allow dumbfuck teachers/counselors to take on the role of understanding/mutilating parent instead.
Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.
Are we still for democracy or no?
Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men
Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea
This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
Dazzler seems to forget about the whole states rights thing.
Except when it is Jay Chinslee and his merry band of progressive legislators. Fuck those guys and their midnight shenanigans making it a crime for parents to refuse sex change operations on their 6 year olds. And allow dumbfuck teachers/counselors to take on the role of understanding/mutilating parent instead.
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.
This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.
He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.
The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.
This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.
He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.
The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.
As for Dazzler?
As always, FTG.
Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?
DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.
This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.
He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.
The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.
As for Dazzler?
As always, FTG.
Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?
DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
No, the economy and all of the geopolitical failings of the stooge you helped to put in the WH will have more weight with the non-stupid voters.
Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.
Good luck in 2024.
You're all going to be well done at the end of times, so 14 weeks, 3 mos, beating heart, 69 days, it doesn't matter. It matters to our sensibilities, of course, but that doesn't drive the analysis.
Of the million or so topics discussed on the Tug pitting right against left, you are all ironically on the same side now. Mellow, Bob, Race, HHusky, Oregon Bros, Pawz ... all the same. And the last men standing are Sleddy, Creep and Roadtrip. RIP Mike Damone, who also had clarity on this most compelling of issues.
In the end, "I don't get it" isn't going to play well.
Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.
Good luck girls!
M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.
This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.
He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.
The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.
As for Dazzler?
As always, FTG.
Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?
DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
lol ANYONE the GOP runs will be Trump Hitler to centrists like you.
Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.
Good luck in 2024.
You're all going to be well done at the end of times, so 14 weeks, 3 mos, beating heart, 69 days, it doesn't matter. It matters to our sensibilities, of course, but that doesn't drive the analysis.
Of the million or so topics discussed on the Tug pitting right against left, you are all ironically on the same side now. Mellow, Bob, Race, HHusky, Oregon Bros, Pawz ... all the same. And the last men standing are Sleddy, Creep and Roadtrip. RIP Mike Damone, who also had clarity on this most compelling of issues.
In the end, "I don't get it" isn't going to play well.
This is where any reasonable human being should step back and evaluate each side and how they approach this debate.
- GOP is against the government funded mass extinguishing of life, whether it’s 1 week, 7 weeks or third trimester. No equivocation. No twisting themselves into pretzels to define what a human life is. Killing babies is wrong and we shouldn’t do it.
- DNC is the side that runs all of these mental gymnastics to define where a viable life begin(cluster of cells, heartbeat, birth etc etc) in order to justify the so-called right to extinguish a life. That right, as it turns out, is nowhere in our constitution.
I’m not saying the debate isn’t important or valid. I’m just pointing out that one side is pretty cut and dry on the issue while the other side is continuously dancing around in an attempt to convince people that a life isn’t really a life until XYZ in order make infanticide a little more palatable to the general public.
Maybe that’s why there is no amendment that outlines this right. You can’t advocate for it as a legislator without addressing the reality of state-sponsored baby murder, and there just aren’t enough people in Congress willing to carry that water. You’ve had 4 decades to get it done after RvW, and you locked the can down the road.
So I get the frustration but I also get the position of conservatives that say the right to LIFE, Liberty. And the pursuit of happiness allows them to pursue restrictions on abortion, leaving aside the obvious moral argument that can be made.
Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.
Are we still for democracy or no?
Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men
Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea
This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.
Are we still for democracy or no?
Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men
Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea
This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
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Good luck girls!
Are we still for democracy or no?
Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men
Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea
This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
Since late last year, Donald Trump has been holding private meetings with religious-right figures in an effort to remind them about his anti-abortion record and ensure their support. But instead of thanking Trump for his role in repealing Roe v. Wade, the leaders are pressing for hardcore commitments that go far beyond what he is comfortable with — and what he thinks voters will allow him to get away with.
According to two participants and another source close to Trump, the ex-president has warned leaders in off-the-record conversations that Republicans risk “losing big” — in Trump’s words — unless they follow his lead. He has warned the leaders to shift their own messaging, telling them to emphasize “exceptions” to abortion bans, including in cases of rape, incest, or a threat to the life of the mother. In these frank talks, Trump has stressed this is his 2024 plan, saying it’s necessary to prevent Democrats from painting him as an “extremist.”
Privately, Trump is conceding those big losses have already begun. Trump has for several weeks vented to confidants that the GOP is “getting killed on abortion” or on “the abortion issue,” according to three people who’ve heard him use this phrasing on different occasions.
During his meetings, when pressed on what specifically he’d support in a second term, Trump has instead focused on his record as the “most pro-life” president in U.S. history. Among the anti-abortion leaders, religious conservatives, and politically active pastors gathered, Trump’s retroactive focus has left some unsatisfied, including anti-abortion advocates who previously endorsed him. Indeed, during one of these conference calls held around early March, one of the participants gently told Trump that his 2024 policy commitments were vague, requesting clarity and specifics. Trump responded by boasting about his past accomplishments, according to two of the sources.
@Kaepsknee
Except when it is Jay Chinslee and his merry band of progressive legislators. Fuck those guys and their midnight shenanigans making it a crime for parents to refuse sex change operations on their 6 year olds. And allow dumbfuck teachers/counselors to take on the role of understanding/mutilating parent instead.
Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.
Fuck off.
This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.
He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.
The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.
As for Dazzler?
As always, FTG.
https://news.yahoo.com/wide-majority-americans-back-abortion-134222056.html
Stick to your guns! Abortion is murder!
DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
Abortions all around, let’s celebrate!
Fuck off.
Of the million or so topics discussed on the Tug pitting right against left, you are all ironically on the same side now. Mellow, Bob, Race, HHusky, Oregon Bros, Pawz ... all the same. And the last men standing are Sleddy, Creep and Roadtrip. RIP Mike Damone, who also had clarity on this most compelling of issues.
In the end, "I don't get it" isn't going to play well.
#thecatholicshaditright
TrumpHitler to centrists like you.Hell for the company
#MyFamilyPlanningAdvisorsAreElderlyCelibates
- GOP is against the government funded mass extinguishing of life, whether it’s 1 week, 7 weeks or third trimester. No equivocation. No twisting themselves into pretzels to define what a human life is. Killing babies is wrong and we shouldn’t do it.
- DNC is the side that runs all of these mental gymnastics to define where a viable life begin(cluster of cells, heartbeat, birth etc etc) in order to justify the so-called right to extinguish a life. That right, as it turns out, is nowhere in our constitution.
I’m not saying the debate isn’t important or valid. I’m just pointing out that one side is pretty cut and dry on the issue while the other side is continuously dancing around in an attempt to convince people that a life isn’t really a life until XYZ in order make infanticide a little more palatable to the general public.
Maybe that’s why there is no amendment that outlines this right. You can’t advocate for it as a legislator without addressing the reality of state-sponsored baby murder, and there just aren’t enough people in Congress willing to carry that water. You’ve had 4 decades to get it done after RvW, and you locked the can down the road.
So I get the frustration but I also get the position of conservatives that say the right to LIFE, Liberty. And the pursuit of happiness allows them to pursue restrictions on abortion, leaving aside the obvious moral argument that can be made.