Chinsightful pod from Caple/O'Neil with Cooper Petagna

Canadawg

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ClSgQfKB40ei1xVmK1Nsw?si=7fGYfNShRqqh4n9VyvYoxw

Cooper gives some very behind the scenes views to Petersen and recruiting in general as well as specific situations during his time here. Couple honest thoughts about UW vs UO and their differences.

BleachedAnusDawg

Cliff notes, anyone?

haie

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Cliff notes, anyone?

Pete was great recruiter when he wanted to be.

They thought they had Charbonnet in the bag.

Jimmy Lake fired him and was a shit boss.

His favorite thing about DeBoer's recruiting is his offense isn't shit.

Cristobol took players just to boost his neckbeard rankings.

Oregon is all Uncle Phil and when he sells the couch their entire program will be engulfed in a southern Oregon wildfire.

As rivals UW and UO are completely different and UW shouldn't try to emulate anything they do in recruiting/branding.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

haie said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Cliff notes, anyone?

Pete was great recruiter when he wanted to be.

They thought they had Charbonnet in the bag.

Jimmy Lake fired him and was a shit boss.

His favorite thing about DeBoer's recruiting is his offense isn't shit.

Cristobol took players just to boost his neckbeard rankings.

Oregon is all Uncle Phil and when he sells the couch their entire program will be engulfed in a southern Oregon wildfire.

As rivals UW and UO are completely different and UW shouldn't try to emulate anything they do in recruiting/branding.

TYFYS

NEsnake12

Also said Henry Toot Toot tried to commit to UW 3 different times

Canadawg

Cooper was first and right about Odunze being elite

He likes how the current staff is using the transfer portal

And yeah he basically said that he challenged CP from time to time resulting in in depth conversations where he respected CP for always trying to learn. He challenged JL and got fired

WoolleyDoog

Actually a really good podcast and was pretty surprised by his candor. I definitely agree with Washington needing to be Washington to beat out Oregon and not chasing them. My main worry/question is if getting guys who want to live in Seattle in the 2020s means you're getting guys who don't live, sleep, eat, shit football and it's only a step up from going to play school.

Canadawg

WoolleyDoog said:

Actually a really good podcast and was pretty surprised by his candor. I definitely agree with Washington needing to be Washington to beat out Oregon and not chasing them. My main worry/question is if getting guys who want to live in Seattle in the 2020s means you're getting guys who don't live, sleep, eat, shit football and it's only a step up from going to play school.

True but there are enough Odunzes and Pettis' that would rather drive their BRZs around Seattle instead of South Bend or Norman

haie

Who was the wr recruit he was talking about that he thought they had to have to get the current room to not be soft that Pete refused to offer?

They made it sound obvious but I dont know wtf they're talking about.

Anyways fuck Pete for that.

chuck

haie said:

Who was the wr recruit he was talking about that he thought they had to have to get the current room to not be soft that Pete refused to offer?

They made it sound obvious but I dont know wtf they're talking about.

Anyways fuck Pete for that.

I just listened and that was my question as well. Two guys that came to mind were Bru McCoy and Ford who ended up at SC (forgot first name). Just guesses though. Maybe Franklin at Oregon would be a decent guess.

haie

NEsnake12 said:

Also said Henry Toot Toot tried to commit to UW 3 different times

Not nearly as bad as Cal and Stanford obviously, but it seems the academis is getting to be a real challenge.

WoolleyDoog

Canadawg said:

WoolleyDoog said:

Actually a really good podcast and was pretty surprised by his candor. I definitely agree with Washington needing to be Washington to beat out Oregon and not chasing them. My main worry/question is if getting guys who want to live in Seattle in the 2020s means you're getting guys who don't live, sleep, eat, shit football and it's only a step up from going to play school.

True but there are enough Odunzes and Pettis' that would rather drive their BRZs around Seattle instead of South Bend or Norman

Good point. Pat Tillman wanted to go to UW because he loved Seattle, though I think Seattle is different now than the 90s. I think to make those guys work you have to get the very best ones. I think Petagna made a good point that they had a tiny margin for error because there are so few guys who fit all those bills. I think you also need a coach/staff that give those guys edge and confidence. I think the Oregon game this year showed well for Deboer and company in that regard. Stanford was a perennial Top 5 level team for half a decade so it's not impossible to do.

haie said:

Who was the wr recruit he was talking about that he thought they had to have to get the current room to not be soft that Pete refused to offer?

They made it sound obvious but I dont know wtf they're talking about.

Anyways fuck Pete for that.

Maybe Mycah Pittman? He sucked anyway so if it was him not a big loss. Can't really think of who else it could have been.

insinceredawg

WoolleyDoog said:

Canadawg said:

WoolleyDoog said:

Actually a really good podcast and was pretty surprised by his candor. I definitely agree with Washington needing to be Washington to beat out Oregon and not chasing them. My main worry/question is if getting guys who want to live in Seattle in the 2020s means you're getting guys who don't live, sleep, eat, shit football and it's only a step up from going to play school.

True but there are enough Odunzes and Pettis' that would rather drive their BRZs around Seattle instead of South Bend or Norman

Good point. Pat Tillman wanted to go to UW because he loved Seattle, though I think Seattle is different now than the 90s. I think to make those guys work you have to get the very best ones. I think Petagna made a good point that they had a tiny margin for error because there are so few guys who fit all those bills. I think you also need a coach/staff that give those guys edge and confidence. I think the Oregon game this year showed well for Deboer and company in that regard. Stanford was a perennial Top 5 level team for half a decade so it's not impossible to do.

haie said:

Who was the wr recruit he was talking about that he thought they had to have to get the current room to not be soft that Pete refused to offer?

They made it sound obvious but I dont know wtf they're talking about.

Anyways fuck Pete for that.

Maybe Mycah Pittman? He sucked anyway so if it was him not a big loss. Can't really think of who else it could have been.

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's talking about Pittman cause he implied the kid didn't get an offer. I think he dropped a subtle hint too when he said the kid was a real "pitbull".

Btw, this is the podcast that someone posted about on the DM boards and Kim deleted even though Cooper works for 247 now. What an insecure little cunt.

RaceBannon

DeBoer got this team to excel in winning time which sadly has been unusual most of this century

He turned 4 an 8 soft losers into winners

Penix played a big role but plenty of teams have a stud qb and still lose the 4th quarter

UW generally won it

As for the 23 season

insinceredawg

Cooper explicitly said he got fired by Jimmy Lake but didn't divulge any details as to why. Hopefully he will provide more details in a future pod.

chuck

insinceredawg said:

Cooper explicitly said he got fired by Jimmy Lake but didn't divulge any details as to why. Hopefully he will provide more details in a future pod.

I was trying to listen, drive and eat my breakfast burrito at the same time so I missed some stuff. I thought I heard him talking about being in the 10% or something along those lines. I think he was talking about the 10% with a dissenting opinion. In other words he disagreed with Lake too much.

haie

chuck said:

insinceredawg said:

Cooper explicitly said he got fired by Jimmy Lake but didn't divulge any details as to why. Hopefully he will provide more details in a future pod.

I was trying to listen, drive and eat my breakfast burrito at the same time so I missed some stuff. I thought I heard him talking about being in the 10% or something along those lines. I think he was talking about the 10% with a dissenting opinion. In other words he disagreed with Lake too much.

It's what this board said for months in 2021. Jimmy wanted cheap Yes men with zero leverage. This guy had enough of a rapport with the staff and success with Petersen that he spoke up.

insinceredawg

haie said:

chuck said:

insinceredawg said:

Cooper explicitly said he got fired by Jimmy Lake but didn't divulge any details as to why. Hopefully he will provide more details in a future pod.

I was trying to listen, drive and eat my breakfast burrito at the same time so I missed some stuff. I thought I heard him talking about being in the 10% or something along those lines. I think he was talking about the 10% with a dissenting opinion. In other words he disagreed with Lake too much.

It's what this board said for months in 2021. Jimmy wanted cheap Yes men with zero leverage. This guy had enough of a rapport with the staff and success with Petersen that he spoke up.

100%. As the Director of Recruiting I assume he wasn't aligned with Jimmy's "We don't have to recruit because players will be lining up to play for me" approach

doogville

haie said:

chuck said:

insinceredawg said:

Cooper explicitly said he got fired by Jimmy Lake but didn't divulge any details as to why. Hopefully he will provide more details in a future pod.

I was trying to listen, drive and eat my breakfast burrito at the same time so I missed some stuff. I thought I heard him talking about being in the 10% or something along those lines. I think he was talking about the 10% with a dissenting opinion. In other words he disagreed with Lake too much.

It's what this board said for months in 2021. Jimmy wanted cheap Yes men with zero leverage. This guy had enough of a rapport with the staff and success with Petersen that he spoke up.

Cooper: Hey coach, it’s sort of weird that Emeka doesn’t want to come here. Can you do a home visit?

Lake: You’re fired. I need to get to the golf course.

Canadawg

With the evolution of that roll growing its nice that UWs current recruiting director got that swag

haie

Canadawg said:

With the evolution of that roll growing its nice that UWs current recruiting director got that swag

He's one of many people on that staff that we? hated until after the Oregon game.