I'm all for speeding up the game but this is BS

SFGbob

http://twitter.com/CodifyBaseball/status/1637222135541407744

46XiJCAB

Another season not to watch baseball. When is the last time an NBA player lost a FT for a 10 sec. violation.

WestlinnDuck

SFGbob said:

http://twitter.com/CodifyBaseball/status/1637222135541407744

I'm all for the current rule changes. With the use of all the relievers no one wants to sit in the sun for 3 and a half hours. Get in the box and be ready to hit. If Portland had a competitive team I'd watch parts of about a third of the games on TV and go to about 5 games a year and I grew up a huge baseball fan. In 1964 there were 20 MLB teams and most pitchers went deep into the game. Today, there aren't enough players to prop up 30 teams. With the money disparity between a few of the top teams, most teams can't be competitive for more than a couple of years and then the big boys take their top names. In the early 80's, I'd have my wife to be read me the box scores in the car when we were driving to Central Oregon. Today, I couldn't name you one player on at least 25 of the MLB teams.

Blueduck

It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".

What's the rush?

SFGbob

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

Blueduck

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?

I say leave the game alone

SFGbob

Blueduck said:

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?

I say leave the game alone

Aren't they limited in the number of times they can throw over to 1st now?

Blueduck

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

I think we would see the same problem, because the picher ca

SFGbob said:

Blueduck said:

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?

I say leave the game alone

Aren't they limited in the number of times they can throw over to 1st now?

I did not know they changed that if they did.
Damn it man !

SFGbob

After two “disengagements,” a pitcher can no longer throw over to first base — or any base — unless he then picks off the runner. If the runner isn't out, it's a balk.Feb 14, 2023

I actually like this because it will lead to more action on the basepaths. A lot more stolen bases and ground ball hits coming this year.

WestlinnDuck

Blueduck said:

It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".

What's the rush?

Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.

Doogles

The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.

Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.

SFGbob

WestlinnDuck said:

Blueduck said:

It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".

What's the rush?

Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.

That's because we're old, I can't tell you what I had for dinner last night either. Quick, name for me one song in the top 40 today.

SFGbob

Doogles said:

The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.

Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.

Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.

WestlinnDuck

SFGbob said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Blueduck said:

It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".

What's the rush?

Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.

That's because we're old, I can't tell you what I had for dinner last night either. Quick, name for me one song in the top 40 today.

There still is a top 40?

Blueduck

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

I think we would see the same problem

WestlinnDuck said:

Blueduck said:

It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".

What's the rush?

Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.

I still have a Pete Rose Baseball card (pre scandal of course) and Dusty Baker card saved from the bubble gum packs they came from. . Reds and Royals were my favorite teams and played on little league teams with the same names.
Ive tried to be a Mariners fan for 30+ years but lost the capacity to be interested or exited after Dave Niehuas passed.
I took the 174 at Seatac to the kingdome to see my first Mariners game in 88

WestlinnDuck

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.

Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.

Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.

My son played baseball and then gave it up for basketball. He loved basketball practice. Hated baseball practice. Hated football practice the most.

SFGbob

WestlinnDuck said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.

Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.

Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.

My son played baseball and then gave it up for basketball. He loved basketball practice. Hated baseball practice. Hated football practice the most.

My oldest played basball up until college ball. The limits of his skills were revealed to him then. He had a good run, played longer than most. I always wish I could have been good enough to play college level basketball. Not a chance.

LaZoris

I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.

SFGbob

LaZoris said:

I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.

I like getting rid of the shift. More base runners, more ground ball hits. Puts the hit and run more back in play.

BleachedAnusDawg

SFGbob said:

Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.

Looks like the hitter fucked around and found out.

Please put a major asterisk on this and note that this is a Spring Training game. Leagues always emphasize new rules much harder in the ramp up to the actual season. They'll still make examples of guys so that players stay on their toes, but I doubt game 7 of the World Series would be allowed to end in this manner.

georgiaduck

SFGbob said:

LaZoris said:

I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.

I like getting rid of the shift. More base runners, more ground ball hits. Puts the hit and run more back in play.

My brothers and I had the same high school baseball coach who's style was purely based on national league fundamentals. Get on base, move the runner over with a sacrifice and then bring them home with a ball up the middle. Combined we played in four state championship games (winning two). If I was hitting 7th with a man on first and less than two outs, I didn't need to look for the bunt signal- it was on auto pilot. No dicking around with my batting gloves, no adjusting my helmet after every pitch. Just get in the box and be ready to hit. Our coach didn't have time for the delay crap, he wanted to back to the dugout for a smoke.

Our only shift was corners even with the bags and up the middle at double play depth with runners on first and third.

The smell of fresh cut grass still takes me back to Eugene in the early 80's.