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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,792 Founders Club

    Democrats have tied the spending resolution to defending democracy in Ukraine

    Zelitski is going the DC to pimp it

    The gullible fall for it

    Hi PGOS!

    The gullible fall for the Russian narrative

    Hth
    Not one person on this bored gives a shit about the Russian narrative. Grow up and understand the two positions do not have to be interlinked.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,078 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadTrip said:

    Democrats have tied the spending resolution to defending democracy in Ukraine

    Zelitski is going the DC to pimp it

    The gullible fall for it

    Hi PGOS!

    The gullible fall for the Russian narrative

    Hth
    Not one person on this bored gives a shit about the Russian narrative. Grow up and understand the two positions do not have to be interlinked.
    This is just wrong. Go reread the first 100 pages
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,792 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    Democrats have tied the spending resolution to defending democracy in Ukraine

    Zelitski is going the DC to pimp it

    The gullible fall for it

    Hi PGOS!

    The gullible fall for the Russian narrative

    Hth
    Not one person on this bored gives a shit about the Russian narrative. Grow up and understand the two positions do not have to be interlinked.
    This is just wrong. Go reread the first 100 pages
    Then name names of who supoorts the Russian narrative. I don't support what they're doing but you'll continue to say I'm a pawn of the Kremlin anyway.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,530 Swaye's Wigwam

    RoadTrip said:

    Democrats have tied the spending resolution to defending democracy in Ukraine

    Zelitski is going the DC to pimp it

    The gullible fall for it

    Hi PGOS!

    The gullible fall for the Russian narrative

    Hth
    Not one person on this bored gives a shit about the Russian narrative. Grow up and understand the two positions do not have to be interlinked.
    This is just wrong. Go reread the first 100 pages
    Page one pretty much sums up everything really.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,780 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It looks huge when the military industrial complex zooms in and tweets about it though.



    Fun with maps? You mean like only showing gains since June or so?

    I'm hearing the Kherson offensive is stalled out and not going anywhere as well.
    Yeah, Russia stalled out for sure last year. Now Ukraine is the one throwing huge losses into offensives that won't move the needle. Ukraine isn't capable of winning by their own definitions or their US handler's definitions (which as of this week are the same).
    Kherson was stalled until it wasn't. Russians use reserves and rails to stabilize the lines. Once one of those breaks massive gains can happen. If Ukraine takes Tokmak, or even just establishes fire control over it, it will cut the rail link to all of the Western front and Crimea.

    Not saying it WILL happen don't twist. Pretty obvious this is now the Ukrainian strategy though.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,780 Swaye's Wigwam

    This war will stalemate at a point that could have been negotiated a few hundred thousand dead ago

    Cook it

    It won't but even if it did Russia dying on this hill literally will be a win for the world including the U-S-A.

    I think only way that happens is if Trump gets elected and forces UKR to accept terms.

    Then the Russians will just wait for the next Democrat to be elected for the next invasion.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,530 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It looks huge when the military industrial complex zooms in and tweets about it though.



    Fun with maps? You mean like only showing gains since June or so?

    I'm hearing the Kherson offensive is stalled out and not going anywhere as well.
    Yeah, Russia stalled out for sure last year. Now Ukraine is the one throwing huge losses into offensives that won't move the needle. Ukraine isn't capable of winning by their own definitions or their US handler's definitions (which as of this week are the same).
    Kherson was stalled until it wasn't. Russians use reserves and rails to stabilize the lines. Once one of those breaks massive gains can happen. If Ukraine takes Tokmak, or even just establishes fire control over it, it will cut the rail link to all of the Western front and Crimea.

    Not saying it WILL happen don't twist. Pretty obvious this is now the Ukrainian strategy though.
    I agree it’s the strategy. No indication that it will work so far. I guess it could under perfect circumstances. The Offensive clearly has underachieved relative to the hype. PGOS was hyping the September spring offensive in February. Reality is that Russia far better at this long grind it out war and my money is on them to achieve whatever objections they have (still unclear what those are)

    The comp on this war is becoming Iran Iraq from the 80’s. Two terrible countries fighting, US backs one horrible dictator against another. Didn’t care who won that one either. Just feel bad for the dead on both sides that fought over nothing.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,078 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It looks huge when the military industrial complex zooms in and tweets about it though.



    Fun with maps? You mean like only showing gains since June or so?

    I'm hearing the Kherson offensive is stalled out and not going anywhere as well.
    Yeah, Russia stalled out for sure last year. Now Ukraine is the one throwing huge losses into offensives that won't move the needle. Ukraine isn't capable of winning by their own definitions or their US handler's definitions (which as of this week are the same).
    Kherson was stalled until it wasn't. Russians use reserves and rails to stabilize the lines. Once one of those breaks massive gains can happen. If Ukraine takes Tokmak, or even just establishes fire control over it, it will cut the rail link to all of the Western front and Crimea.

    Not saying it WILL happen don't twist. Pretty obvious this is now the Ukrainian strategy though.
    I agree it’s the strategy. No indication that it will work so far. I guess it could under perfect circumstances. The Offensive clearly has underachieved relative to the hype. PGOS was hyping the September spring offensive in February. Reality is that Russia far better at this long grind it out war and my money is on them to achieve whatever objections they have (still unclear what those are)

    The comp on this war is becoming Iran Iraq from the 80’s. Two terrible countries fighting, US backs one horrible dictator against another. Didn’t care who won that one either. Just feel bad for the dead on both sides that fought over nothing.
    The offensive hasnt delivered the desired results thus far. But neither did the last two...until they did.

    The front can collapse at any point in time almost instantly. All accounts are that Russia is losing a large number more artillery than Ukraine is. But Russia has massive reserves and decent industry for artillery.

    Russia is also losing premier assets like T90 tanks and KA52 helicopters at an alarming rate.

    Russia cannot operate its air force near the front line due to budget rate Western AA. They dont even try to use SU35s anymore because its not worth it.

    Its a drone fest nightmare on both sides in farmland with barely any tree coverage.

    Despite these challenges Ukraine is slowly grinding forward towards Tokmak. They are getting Abrams tanks and F16s soon.

    LIFPO.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,928 Founders Club
    edited September 2023

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It looks huge when the military industrial complex zooms in and tweets about it though.



    Fun with maps? You mean like only showing gains since June or so?

    I'm hearing the Kherson offensive is stalled out and not going anywhere as well.
    Yeah, Russia stalled out for sure last year. Now Ukraine is the one throwing huge losses into offensives that won't move the needle. Ukraine isn't capable of winning by their own definitions or their US handler's definitions (which as of this week are the same).
    Kherson was stalled until it wasn't. Russians use reserves and rails to stabilize the lines. Once one of those breaks massive gains can happen. If Ukraine takes Tokmak, or even just establishes fire control over it, it will cut the rail link to all of the Western front and Crimea.

    Not saying it WILL happen don't twist. Pretty obvious this is now the Ukrainian strategy though.
    I agree it’s the strategy. No indication that it will work so far. I guess it could under perfect circumstances. The Offensive clearly has underachieved relative to the hype. PGOS was hyping the September spring offensive in February. Reality is that Russia far better at this long grind it out war and my money is on them to achieve whatever objections they have (still unclear what those are)

    The comp on this war is becoming Iran Iraq from the 80’s. Two terrible countries fighting, US backs one horrible dictator against another. Didn’t care who won that one either. Just feel bad for the dead on both sides that fought over nothing.
    The offensive hasnt delivered the desired results thus far. But neither did the last two...until they did.

    The front can collapse at any point in time almost instantly. All accounts are that Russia is losing a large number more artillery than Ukraine is. But Russia has massive reserves and decent industry for artillery.

    Russia is also losing premier assets like T90 tanks and KA52 helicopters at an alarming rate.

    Russia cannot operate its air force near the front line due to budget rate Western AA. They dont even try to use SU35s anymore because its not worth it.

    Its a drone fest nightmare on both sides in farmland with barely any tree coverage.

    Despite these challenges Ukraine is slowly grinding forward towards Tokmak. They are getting Abrams tanks and F16s soon.

    LIFPO.
    Please to be defining 'soon'.

    1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years?

    How many do they actually need? How many will they actually get?

    What material difference will it make to effect an actual change in the landscape?


  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,156 Standard Supporter

    I think a lot of you aren't taking into account the emotion on the field

    A lot of the progress isn't showing up on the scoreboard

    Zelitski needs more tim



    The Z Midget wants to turn back the clock to 1991 which is totally fair

    How many NATO members need to be booted out to restore that condition?

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,530 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It looks huge when the military industrial complex zooms in and tweets about it though.



    Fun with maps? You mean like only showing gains since June or so?

    I'm hearing the Kherson offensive is stalled out and not going anywhere as well.
    Yeah, Russia stalled out for sure last year. Now Ukraine is the one throwing huge losses into offensives that won't move the needle. Ukraine isn't capable of winning by their own definitions or their US handler's definitions (which as of this week are the same).
    Kherson was stalled until it wasn't. Russians use reserves and rails to stabilize the lines. Once one of those breaks massive gains can happen. If Ukraine takes Tokmak, or even just establishes fire control over it, it will cut the rail link to all of the Western front and Crimea.

    Not saying it WILL happen don't twist. Pretty obvious this is now the Ukrainian strategy though.
    I agree it’s the strategy. No indication that it will work so far. I guess it could under perfect circumstances. The Offensive clearly has underachieved relative to the hype. PGOS was hyping the September spring offensive in February. Reality is that Russia far better at this long grind it out war and my money is on them to achieve whatever objections they have (still unclear what those are)

    The comp on this war is becoming Iran Iraq from the 80’s. Two terrible countries fighting, US backs one horrible dictator against another. Didn’t care who won that one either. Just feel bad for the dead on both sides that fought over nothing.
    The offensive hasnt delivered the desired results thus far. But neither did the last two...until they did.

    The front can collapse at any point in time almost instantly. All accounts are that Russia is losing a large number more artillery than Ukraine is. But Russia has massive reserves and decent industry for artillery.

    Russia is also losing premier assets like T90 tanks and KA52 helicopters at an alarming rate.

    Russia cannot operate its air force near the front line due to budget rate Western AA. They dont even try to use SU35s anymore because its not worth it.

    Its a drone fest nightmare on both sides in farmland with barely any tree coverage.

    Despite these challenges Ukraine is slowly grinding forward towards Tokmak. They are getting Abrams tanks and F16s soon.

    LIFPO.
    Please to be defining 'soon'.

    1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years?

    How many do they actually need? How many will they actually get?

    What material difference will it make to effect an actual change in the landscape?


    “Soon” is as long as it takes.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,842 Standard Supporter

    All you need to know. Massive demonrat money laundering scheme just launched by Obama. I mean Joe.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,078 Swaye's Wigwam
    Rand getting donations from Russia or something to have this smooth brain of a take.

    Everything he talks about is true.

    What is also true, is the banned parties, churches are...Russian. The country invading them, Rand. Total fucking war, Rand.

    The election was stalled because their constitution says they can. What country that shares a border with Russia, being invaded by Russia would have elections?

    For fucks sake. It's a fight for survival. Easy to criticize from shit hole fucking Kentucky
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

    Rand getting donations from Russia or something to have this smooth brain of a take.

    Everything he talks about is true.

    What is also true, is the banned parties, churches are...Russian. The country invading them, Rand. Total fucking war, Rand.

    The election was stalled because their constitution says they can. What country that shares a border with Russia, being invaded by Russia would have elections?

    For fucks sake. It's a fight for survival. Easy to criticize from shit hole fucking Kentucky
    Yeah but still

    RUSSIA

    Grow up boss

    Lincoln ran for reelection

    That's a fucking democracy pal

    If they both suck and they do then fuck them both. Idiot
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,078 Swaye's Wigwam

    Rand getting donations from Russia or something to have this smooth brain of a take.

    Everything he talks about is true.

    What is also true, is the banned parties, churches are...Russian. The country invading them, Rand. Total fucking war, Rand.

    The election was stalled because their constitution says they can. What country that shares a border with Russia, being invaded by Russia would have elections?

    For fucks sake. It's a fight for survival. Easy to criticize from shit hole fucking Kentucky
    Yeah but still

    RUSSIA

    Grow up boss

    Lincoln ran for reelection

    That's a fucking democracy pal

    If they both suck and they do then fuck them both. Idiot
    Ukraines constitution says that if they are being invaded elections are canceled.

    So that Russia doesnt back a candidate, Einstein.
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