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Thanks Taft!
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UW gonna need get real with hockey if they want to play in the B1G. BCHL puts lots of players in to colleges out east so I'm sure theres lots of players that would like a local school to go to
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It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still. -
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here. -
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year. -
College hockey is for the kids that can't make the pros these days.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here. -
Thanks Nacho!
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College kids make it to the NHL all the time.UW_Doog_Bot said:
College hockey is for the kids that can't make the pros these days.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
Yes there's the WHL where kids don't want to play school. But if UW had a strong program they would think twice about that.
It's a better investment than a lot of things. -
ASU's barn is decent by cawlidge hawkey standards. But make no mistake: It's a complete fucking embarrassment that an NHL team calls that place home--even temporarily.haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still. -
That's an outlier situation though.TTJ said:
ASU's barn is decent by college hockey standards. But make no mistake: It's a complete fucking embarrassment that an NHL team calls that place home--even temporarily.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
Coyotes should move up and be the new Quebec franchise. -
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc -
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC. -
The CHL (WHL, QMJHL, OHL) is definitely the more traditional path to the NHL but many many elite players come through Junior A and bridge between the NHL by playing against their age group for a year or two more. Not to mention the obvious advantage of being able to fall back on the degree that comes with playing school for the ones that aren't a lock high round pick.
Very clear path to being a high profile hockey program. Would UW build a rink on campus? -
UW can't even field a competent basketball team and you want them to start a hockey program in an area where hardly anyone plays hockey?
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Soccer. Obviously.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc -
Losers lose!pawz said:
Soccer. Obviously.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc -
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
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Why don't you add women's hockey, is that too obvious? Or is there no D1 varsity women's hockey to compete in?YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
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Where's the fucking money though?dnc said:
Why don't you add women's hockey, is that too obvious? Or is there no D1 varsity women's hockey to compete in?YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
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It's women's sports, outside of occasionally basketball there's not really any money in any of them. At least with hockey you'd be getting more use out of the arena/faciliites AND make the pitch stronger for the @WeAreAFatLesboSchool supporters in charge to get behind investing in hockey. Also gives you an even number of needed schoolies to match up for Title IX balance. I don't see how there's a superior women's sport option.YellowSnow said:
Where's the fucking money though?dnc said:
Why don't you add women's hockey, is that too obvious? Or is there no D1 varsity women's hockey to compete in?YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
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I believe that the Phoenix area had 38 high schools that have hockey teams last time I checked. Club hockey is also giant down there also. I don't know of any schools here that actually have hockey teams.haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
Hockey is actually pretty big down there. When a good portion of your population is transplanted from Michigan and Minnesota, it makes sense. Unfortunately, most of the transplants up here are from California, and are homeless. -
Hockey is actually big business in California as well. If you have to build an enclosed rink anyways it operates 365 and not seasonally.Alexis said:
I believe that the Phoenix area had 38 high schools that have hockey teams last time I checked. Club hockey is also giant down there also. I don't know of any schools here that actually have hockey teams.haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
Hockey is actually pretty big down there. When a good portion of your population is transplanted from Michigan and Minnesota, it makes sense. Unfortunately, most of the transplants up here are from California, and are homeless.
I played and both nephews play now. Tons of clubs down here and lots of NHL talent and players doing their semi-retirement coaching and teaching near the beach.
CSB my nickname in UW Rugby was "Hockey". Showed up to the first practice and leveled one of the front 8 with a rugby style tackle while weighing about 170lbs. Popped up and coach asks me, "What’s your name?"
"[UW_DOOG_BOT]"
"Nah, that ain't gonna work, we already have a [UW_DOOG_BOT]...
What sport did you play before this that you learned to hit that way?"
Shrugged and said, "Hockey I guess."
"Great, that's your name now, welcome aboard Hockey." -
Rugby is Varsity but self funded as well. Last I checked they were playing with other status but hadn't changed. No full ride scholarships anyways.YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
No way UW builds a hockey arena with multiple already existing in the area despite how hard a boner the hockeyfans have. Costly in the extreme for essentially a one trick space that won't ever get filled to capacity while being hugely capital intensive and a non revenue generator.
Lol more likely women's hockey gets scholarships first to offset another men's sport first.
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This is incorrect @UW_Doog_Bot . Let's clean a few things up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is Varsity but self funded as well. Last I checked they were playing with other status but hadn't changed. No full ride scholarships anyways.YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
No way UW builds a hockey arena with multiple already existing in the area despite how hard a boner the hockeyfans have. Costly in the extreme for essentially a one trick space that won't ever get filled to capacity while being hugely capital intensive and a non revenue generator.
Lol more likely women's hockey gets scholarships first to offset another men's sport first.
Rugy is not a "Varsity" sport at the University of Washington. It's a "club" sport. This is not meant as a knock against TUFF rugby players so don't twist.
The list of Varsity Sports is as follows:
Men's sports
Baseball
Basketball
Cross country
Football
Golf
Rowing
Soccer
Tennis
Track and field
Women's sports
Basketball
Beach volleyball
Cross country
Golf
Gymnastics
Rowing
Soccer
Softball
Tennis
Track and field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Huskies
https://gohuskies.com/
Men's Rowboat is kind of an odd duck, however. Men's Rowing is very much a part of the Athletic Department and the bulk of the budget is paid for by the Athletic Department like any other Varsity Sport. But back in the early 1900's Rowing told the NCAA to fuck off and the sport to this day is not governed by those Turds. Also the Men's schollies are privately endowed as noted above.
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Most of the people I knew that managed to get paid worked their way up through other leagues etc. (I only knew 1 guy that got direct drafted).Canadawg said:The CHL (WHL, QMJHL, OHL) is definitely the more traditional path to the NHL but many many elite players come through Junior A and bridge between the NHL by playing against their age group for a year or two more. Not to mention the obvious advantage of being able to fall back on the degree that comes with playing school for the ones that aren't a lock high round pick.
Very clear path to being a high profile hockey program. Would UW build a rink on campus?
College play was for those guys who were probably not going to really get paid and needed to hedge a college education out of the deal or foreign players that needed a visa workaround.
Not that some of those guys didn't "bloom late" or had a hard on for Michigan hockey or something but just my general experience.
College was for the guys that were tweeners with either high talent but unpolished late starter or low talent high skill guys types. That or injury ? guys or guys lacking enough size for the big leagues.
The guys without all those question marks that didn't come to play school either played minors or played out of country if they weren't *quite there for the NHL.
*shrug, this is my experience 20 years ago but I don't see anything that has made college hockey MOAR competitive. If anything it has probably gotten less so.
ATBS UW hockey looks like it has come a long way since I was there. I didn't play in college bc it seemed like amateur hour when I attended while also having a ton of ego and politics. A lot of dudes angry at life that they weren't born with enough athleticism to make it to a higher level. Rugby was way more fun as a club with people that just wanted to hit something and drink beer afterwards.
Franny? @YellowSnow knew I couldn't resist a hockey varsity sports haught thread. -
God damn it, Bot! Quit triggering me.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Most of the people I knew that managed to get paid worked their way up through other leagues etc. (I only knew 1 guy that got direct drafted).Canadawg said:The CHL (WHL, QMJHL, OHL) is definitely the more traditional path to the NHL but many many elite players come through Junior A and bridge between the NHL by playing against their age group for a year or two more. Not to mention the obvious advantage of being able to fall back on the degree that comes with playing school for the ones that aren't a lock high round pick.
Very clear path to being a high profile hockey program. Would UW build a rink on campus?
College play was for those guys who were probably not going to really get paid and needed to hedge a college education out of the deal or foreign players that needed a visa workaround.
Not that some of those guys didn't "bloom late" or had a hard on for Michigan hockey or something but just my general experience.
College was for the guys that were tweeners with either high talent but unpolished late starter or low talent high skill guys types. That or injury ? guys or guys lacking enough size for the big leagues.
The guys without all those question marks that didn't come to play school either played minors or played out of country if they weren't *quite there for the NHL.
*shrug, this is my experience 20 years ago but I don't see anything that has made college hockey MOAR competitive. If anything it has probably gotten less so.
ATBS UW hockey looks like it has come a long way since I was there. I didn't play in college bc it seemed like amateur hour when I attended while also having a ton of ego and politics. A lot of dudes angry at life that they weren't born with enough athleticism to make it to a higher level. Rugby was way more fun as a club with people that just wanted to hit something and drink beer afterwards.
Franny? @YellowSnow knew I couldn't resist a hockey varsity sports haught thread.
If it's not on Gohuskies.com it's not a "Varsity" sport. -
Rugby is similarly a weird dog(not a duck BONEM)YellowSnow said:
This is incorrect @UW_Doog_Bot . Let's clean a few things up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is Varsity but self funded as well. Last I checked they were playing with other status but hadn't changed. No full ride scholarships anyways.YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
No way UW builds a hockey arena with multiple already existing in the area despite how hard a boner the hockeyfans have. Costly in the extreme for essentially a one trick space that won't ever get filled to capacity while being hugely capital intensive and a non revenue generator.
Lol more likely women's hockey gets scholarships first to offset another men's sport first.
Rugy is not a "Varsity" sport at the University of Washington. It's a "club" sport. This is not meant as a knock against TUFF rugby players so don't twist.
The list of Varsity Sports is as follows:
Men's sports
Baseball
Basketball
Cross country
Football
Golf
Rowing
Soccer
Tennis
Track and field
Women's sports
Basketball
Beach volleyball
Cross country
Golf
Gymnastics
Rowing
Soccer
Softball
Tennis
Track and field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Huskies
https://gohuskies.com/
Men's Rowboat is kind of an odd duck, however. Men's Rowing is very much a part of the Athletic Department and the bulk of the budget is paid for by the Athletic Department like any other Varsity Sport. But back in the early 1900's Rowing told the NCAA to fuck off and the sport to this day is not governed by those Turds. Also the Men's schollies are privately endowed as noted above.
Women's Rowboat is a NCAA sport and the schollies come out of the general fund.
Founded in 1963, the University of Washington Husky Rugby Club plays college rugby in Division 1 in the Northwest Collegiate Rugby Conference against local rivals such as Washington State and Oregon. The Huskies won the Northwest championship in 1996, 2002, 2004 and 2005 and the D1AA Varsity Cup in 2014.
NOT NCAA either. It is a "club" in that every Rugby team is a "club" but was a varsity sport. It all goes back to the rugby vs. Football split.
The closest approximation is UW rowing but with a smaller endowment which admittedly UW's rowboat endowment is yuge. Rugby's isn't bad by the sports standard in the US.
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@UW_Doog_Bot you should have gone to CAL!! You could have gotten a sick Letter Man Jacket.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is similarly a weird dog(not a duck BONEM)YellowSnow said:
This is incorrect @UW_Doog_Bot . Let's clean a few things up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is Varsity but self funded as well. Last I checked they were playing with other status but hadn't changed. No full ride scholarships anyways.YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
No way UW builds a hockey arena with multiple already existing in the area despite how hard a boner the hockeyfans have. Costly in the extreme for essentially a one trick space that won't ever get filled to capacity while being hugely capital intensive and a non revenue generator.
Lol more likely women's hockey gets scholarships first to offset another men's sport first.
Rugy is not a "Varsity" sport at the University of Washington. It's a "club" sport. This is not meant as a knock against TUFF rugby players so don't twist.
The list of Varsity Sports is as follows:
Men's sports
Baseball
Basketball
Cross country
Football
Golf
Rowing
Soccer
Tennis
Track and field
Women's sports
Basketball
Beach volleyball
Cross country
Golf
Gymnastics
Rowing
Soccer
Softball
Tennis
Track and field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Huskies
https://gohuskies.com/
Men's Rowboat is kind of an odd duck, however. Men's Rowing is very much a part of the Athletic Department and the bulk of the budget is paid for by the Athletic Department like any other Varsity Sport. But back in the early 1900's Rowing told the NCAA to fuck off and the sport to this day is not governed by those Turds. Also the Men's schollies are privately endowed as noted above.
Women's Rowboat is a NCAA sport and the schollies come out of the general fund.
Founded in 1963, the University of Washington Husky Rugby Club plays college rugby in Division 1 in the Northwest Collegiate Rugby Conference against local rivals such as Washington State and Oregon. The Huskies won the Northwest championship in 1996, 2002, 2004 and 2005 and the D1AA Varsity Cup in 2014.
NOT NCAA either. It is a "club" in that every Rugby team is a "club" but was a varsity sport. It all goes back to the rugby vs. Football split.
The closest approximation is UW rowing but with a smaller endowment which admittedly UW's rowboat endowment is yuge. Rugby's isn't bad by the sports standard in the US.
Rugby is a Varsity Sport at Cal, the only one in the Pac 12.
https://calbears.com/sports/mens-rugby?path=mrugby
Fun fact: the only other D1 schools where Rugby is a Varsity Sport are Navy (shout out @Swaye ) and Army (shout out @CFetters_Nacho_Lover )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_rugby -
FREE PUB!!!YellowSnow said:
@UW_Doog_Bot you should have gone to CAL!! You could have gotten a sick Letter Man Jacket.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is similarly a weird dog(not a duck BONEM)YellowSnow said:
This is incorrect @UW_Doog_Bot . Let's clean a few things up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Rugby is Varsity but self funded as well. Last I checked they were playing with other status but hadn't changed. No full ride scholarships anyways.YellowSnow said:
But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...haie said:
I don't care which one. Not rowing.YellowSnow said:
Bruh!haie said:
Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.YellowSnow said:
Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?haie said:It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.
Fucking unreal.
The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.
In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.
Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.
Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.
P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.
No way UW builds a hockey arena with multiple already existing in the area despite how hard a boner the hockeyfans have. Costly in the extreme for essentially a one trick space that won't ever get filled to capacity while being hugely capital intensive and a non revenue generator.
Lol more likely women's hockey gets scholarships first to offset another men's sport first.
Rugy is not a "Varsity" sport at the University of Washington. It's a "club" sport. This is not meant as a knock against TUFF rugby players so don't twist.
The list of Varsity Sports is as follows:
Men's sports
Baseball
Basketball
Cross country
Football
Golf
Rowing
Soccer
Tennis
Track and field
Women's sports
Basketball
Beach volleyball
Cross country
Golf
Gymnastics
Rowing
Soccer
Softball
Tennis
Track and field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Huskies
https://gohuskies.com/
Men's Rowboat is kind of an odd duck, however. Men's Rowing is very much a part of the Athletic Department and the bulk of the budget is paid for by the Athletic Department like any other Varsity Sport. But back in the early 1900's Rowing told the NCAA to fuck off and the sport to this day is not governed by those Turds. Also the Men's schollies are privately endowed as noted above.
Women's Rowboat is a NCAA sport and the schollies come out of the general fund.
Founded in 1963, the University of Washington Husky Rugby Club plays college rugby in Division 1 in the Northwest Collegiate Rugby Conference against local rivals such as Washington State and Oregon. The Huskies won the Northwest championship in 1996, 2002, 2004 and 2005 and the D1AA Varsity Cup in 2014.
NOT NCAA either. It is a "club" in that every Rugby team is a "club" but was a varsity sport. It all goes back to the rugby vs. Football split.
The closest approximation is UW rowing but with a smaller endowment which admittedly UW's rowboat endowment is yuge. Rugby's isn't bad by the sports standard in the US.
Rugby is a Varsity Sport at Cal, the only one in the Pac 12.
https://calbears.com/sports/mens-rugby?path=mrugby
Fun fact: the only other D1 schools where Rugby is a Varsity Sport are Navy (shout out @Swaye ) and Army (shout out @CFetters_Nacho_Lover )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_rugby
