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Why recruiting matters
46XiJCAB
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No one is winning a Championship averaging less than a top-15 class for 5 consecutive years. Eight of the last ten Champions have averaged a top-7 or better. The portal isn't going to change that history. The teams at the top are going to reach into it and fill their needs and keep rolling along with top overall classes stacked one after the other. UGA, Bama, tOSU, LSU and most likely Clempson. FSU is going to become a player again. TAM will be TAM. Mario will stack classes and lose to a scrub along the way. SC will have the classes but LR never wins when it counts the most.
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LOL.................
Time to breath heavily while looking at tape of the 17 and 18 year old sculpted boys again isn't it?
There are some players worth getting excited over. Kayvon, Stewart, Smalls, Budda Baker, etc. Quarterback is just too much of a crapshoot. Wake me up when they aren't throwing 5 picks to cuog.
Oregon's top-10 five stars.
KT-NFL
Flowe/no, we will see what he does at Zona.
Ngata-NFL
Stewart-NFL
Sewell-NFL
Colvin/no, nice career
D. Thomas-NFL
Conerly Jr.
Armstead-NFL
Kaumatule/no, medical retire.
He goes to LSU, then Bama and becomes maybe the greatest college HC ever. One thing changed, he went from good players to much better with elite level players mixed in.
I'd take one year of Ed Orgeron if it meant having that trophy in the case to crow about.
One subtle gloss: sure, Miami, Texas and Florida have more good players than your average 5-7 team, or whatever. But using Miami as the example, their NFL production is a shadow of what it once was. I guess it's all what you're used to. They've graduated some current NFL studs recently, but it's nothing like it has been and it's been commented in NFL circles, "what's up with Miami?". They're a good example of not all stars are created equally. The 5 stars that have escaped Miami to go to Bama have been fucking superstars. But Miami, OTOH, has had some really shitty luck with 5 stars the last several years, and some of them don't even pass the eye test, like Mark Pope, whose only realistic opportunity to contribute was as a possession receiver, which was not his billing at all, and he sucked at that too. Honestly, I watched him from the beginning and was like, "I don't get it." Like, literally a useless player. There are a bunch of 4 stars in that category as well. I'm sure some of it is development, but come on. Does anyone really develop an elite corner or an edge guy? Or a running back? To a degree, sure, but not really that much. Bottom line is that shitty teams have shitty coaches who not only fail to develop, but their talent eval. is usually shitty as well. There are exceptions, like Zook. But mostly part of being a good coach is not getting sold a bucket of goods on an elite recruit who really isn't that elite.
I'll say it again: people in sports are FUCKING TERRIBLE at their jobs as a general matter. They exist and operate with a batting average barometer of success, while the rest of us have to be very good to be perceived as, you know, good. How many lawyers or docs do you know who have to do a good job only 3 out of 10 times? How many floors can @RaceBannon s shop fuck up and still be a go-to service? How many builders can get by building 3 good houses and 7 future money pitts? How many shitty and bugggy software applications can @haie afford to write because he wrote something good 4 years ago? Nobody gets to operate that way.
We’re pretty sure Deboer is a good coach
We’re pretty sure Lanning is a great recruiter
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good evaluator of talent
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good recruiter
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good coach
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good evaluator of talent
Pretty much where we’re at. Not much more to glean until Penix and Nix leave and we see some more turnover from assistant staffers.
I like our guy until I don’t. Same with you guys.
LIPO
You should be glad I think that because I always do and am usually wrong
Could have been 8-5
The median there is 10-3.5 which is where he landed. If he averages 10 wins he’s a good not great coach.
Jury still out imo
He's not right now and he's learning on the job. So it'll be at least two more years until he might become decent.
Covid year sucked for a lot of teams then a 6-6 and he's fired
Kelly lost 4 games this year but he beat Bama and nothing else matters as it allowed him to get run by Georgia. I would bet money Kelly never wins a natty at LSU.
If you could get Ed O as your top recruiter like Carroll did at USC then you get the best of both worlds