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BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,045 Standard Supporter
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No worries, the fake bike rider buttigige, the former mayor who couldn't fill pot holes in his own home town will handle this..

Worst administration ever, bar none.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/hundreds-flights-grounded-nationwide-faa-experiences-computer-outage

Hundreds of flights grounded nationwide after FAA experiences computer outage
The FAA's website does not say when the issue will be resolved.
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  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,045 Swaye's Wigwam
    NOTAMs are redundant info and anything critical should be covered by ATC. The example our wonderful Today Show used was "alerting pilots that a certain runway is closed". Well last time I piloted an aircraft the tower instructed my on which runway to use- it wasn't up to PIC. Birds in the area? ATIS is updated every 15 minutes. This should not have happened.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    georgiaduck said:

    NOTAMs are redundant info and anything critical should be covered by ATC. The example our wonderful Today Show used was "alerting pilots that a certain runway is closed". Well last time I piloted an aircraft the tower instructed my on which runway to use- it wasn't up to PIC. Birds in the area? ATIS is updated every 15 minutes. This should not have happened.

    Maybe it's cover for an actual hack

    Diehard 2
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  • LogisticsLogistics Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2023
    georgiaduck said:

    NOTAMs are redundant info and anything critical should be covered by ATC. The example our wonderful Today Show used was "alerting pilots that a certain runway is closed". Well last time I piloted an aircraft the tower instructed my on which runway to use- it wasn't up to PIC. Birds in the area? ATIS is updated every 15 minutes. This should not have happened.

    Which airport (s) update their ATIS every 15 minutes? The normal interval is one hour, unless they have to issue a special due to rapidly changing conditions.

    With that said, you're absolutely correct. NOTAMs have become useless gibberish. Like you said, if it's critical, it'll be covered by ATIS. Also, an airline's dispatch department isn't going to launch an airplane if there are limiting factors at the departure and destination airports.

    Also, as you mentioned, ATC will direct you to the operating runway and they'll keep you out of closed taxiways, etc.

    There are many resources available to the PIC that are way more useful than the antiquated NOTAM system.
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  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,045 Swaye's Wigwam
    Logistics said:

    georgiaduck said:

    NOTAMs are redundant info and anything critical should be covered by ATC. The example our wonderful Today Show used was "alerting pilots that a certain runway is closed". Well last time I piloted an aircraft the tower instructed my on which runway to use- it wasn't up to PIC. Birds in the area? ATIS is updated every 15 minutes. This should not have happened.

    Which airport (s) update their ATIS every 15 minutes? The normal interval is one hour, unless they have to issue a special due to rapidly changing conditions.

    With that said, you're absolutely correct. NOTAMs have become useless gibberish. Like you said, if it's critical, it'll be covered by ATIS. Also, an airline's dispatch department isn't going to launch an airplane if there are limiting factors at the departure and destination airports.

    Also, as you mentioned, ATC will direct you to the operating runway and they'll keep you out of closed taxiways, etc.

    There are many resources available to the PIC that are way more useful than the antiquated NOTAM system.
    Been a while since Ive been in the left seat and I was thinking 15 minutes for ATIS. But then again I live in the south and weather changes that quickly.
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  • LogisticsLogistics Member Posts: 115
    georgiaduck said:

    Logistics said:

    georgiaduck said:

    NOTAMs are redundant info and anything critical should be covered by ATC. The example our wonderful Today Show used was "alerting pilots that a certain runway is closed". Well last time I piloted an aircraft the tower instructed my on which runway to use- it wasn't up to PIC. Birds in the area? ATIS is updated every 15 minutes. This should not have happened.

    Which airport (s) update their ATIS every 15 minutes? The normal interval is one hour, unless they have to issue a special due to rapidly changing conditions.

    With that said, you're absolutely correct. NOTAMs have become useless gibberish. Like you said, if it's critical, it'll be covered by ATIS. Also, an airline's dispatch department isn't going to launch an airplane if there are limiting factors at the departure and destination airports.

    Also, as you mentioned, ATC will direct you to the operating runway and they'll keep you out of closed taxiways, etc.

    There are many resources available to the PIC that are way more useful than the antiquated NOTAM system.
    Been a while since Ive been in the left seat and I was thinking 15 minutes for ATIS. But then again I live in the south and weather changes that quickly.
    Retired?

    Delta?
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  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,045 Swaye's Wigwam
    Private- But Delta was my main customer for a little over three years. Worked with all groups - IT/Marketing/Call Centers/Weather Monitoring/Gate Agents/Crown Room... Was on campus in Atl and MSP most days. Fun to have a front row view of a daily hobby. I went to the sims a few times but never got to run one- always wanted to.
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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,605 Founders Club
    georgiaduck said:

    Private- But Delta was my main customer for a little over three years. Worked with all groups - IT/Marketing/Call Centers/Weather Monitoring/Gate Agents/Crown Room... Was on campus in Atl and MSP most days. Fun to have a front row view of a daily hobby. I went to the sims a few times but never got to run one- always wanted to.

    Any runs into Colombia? Askin for a fren
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  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,045 Swaye's Wigwam
    Yes- South Carolina
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,278 Standard Supporter
    georgiaduck said:

    Yes- South Carolina

    Hot Cocks talk!
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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    How many transportation crises have we had under Daddy #2? No wonder he wasn’t winning re-election in South Bend. Fucking useless twit.
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter
    I won't voluntarily ever own an electric vehicle and Tesla is just a synergistic relationship with government subsidies and mandates and green virtue signaling. But I give Musk great credit for the courage and willingness to lose billions on showing the absolute corruption of the leftards running government censorship through Twitter. Frankly, the revelations haven't told me or anyone paying attention to the issues of deplatforming, demonetizing and banning at the bequest of the government. But the phucking canning of thousands of whining leftards is worth the price of popcorn, plus the reinstatement of those who were banned like Alex Berenson.

    Then we have the great success of SpaceX. Compare what Musk has accomplished/accomplishing with SpaceX with its competitors including Boeing. Artemis was about 6 years behind schedule and finally got into orbit in November over six years late and billions of cost overruns. Virgin Orbital just launched and failed to get its cargo of satellites into orbit. The Boeing Starliner has written off over a billion and growing on its
    platform and finally got into space, again six years behind schedule. Bezos's platform is not competitive and is expected to get dropped.

    SpaceX put 61 launches into orbit in 2022. Today:


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  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,045 Swaye's Wigwam
    On a call today with our engineering team in Kiev one of the lead engineers was excited to announce his new Starlink device arrived today. Musk is going to be just fine
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter
    georgiaduck said:

    On a call today with our engineering team in Kiev one of the lead engineers was excited to announce his new Starlink device arrived today. Musk is going to be just fine

    So, the US government is spending tens of billions of dollars to supply high speed internet to rural America. Buying some Starlink devices for poor US rural citizens would be a lot smarter and cheaper. But dems and crony capitalist RINOs don't do smart and cheaper.
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  • LogisticsLogistics Member Posts: 115
    georgiaduck said:

    Private- But Delta was my main customer for a little over three years. Worked with all groups - IT/Marketing/Call Centers/Weather Monitoring/Gate Agents/Crown Room... Was on campus in Atl and MSP most days. Fun to have a front row view of a daily hobby. I went to the sims a few times but never got to run one- always wanted to.

    That's cool. I have a bunch of friends who are Delta pilots.
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,823 Founders Club
    Bendintheriver said:

    No worries, the fake bike rider buttigige, the former mayor who couldn't fill pot holes in his own home town will handle this..

    Worst administration ever, bar none.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/hundreds-flights-grounded-nationwide-faa-experiences-computer-outage

    Hundreds of flights grounded nationwide after FAA experiences computer outage
    The FAA's website does not say when the issue will be resolved.

    Hey, hey, hey wait a minute. Peter is an expert at plugging holes!
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