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Starting to see a trend here

Ice_HolmvikIce_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
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It iis obvious Ohio State is spoon feeding this message to recruits. The question is why. Are they trying to get by for less because funds aren't what they should be or are they trying to flaunt their development as an asset.

https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-buckeyes/football-world-reacts-to-ohio-state-5-star-recruits-admission
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  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,229 Swaye's Wigwam
    Canadawg said:

    It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.

    I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.

    OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.

    There is actually a lot of truth to this

    If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard
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  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,814 Standard Supporter
    There’s an Athletic article out with anonymous quotes from top recruits where they all claim Development and ability to get to the league over NIL cash as driving their decisions.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Canadawg said:

    It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.

    I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.

    OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.

    I also don't buy that a lot of money is being thrown at high school recruits, with maybe a handful of exceptions. Seems like schools realize that the NIL dollar goes a lot further in enticing transfers or getting draft-eligible players to stay another year. The ROI is a lot better on proven vets instead of undeveloped high schoolers who have a much higher chance of busting.
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  • DawgDaze71DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    Just say “they have a fun offense and a nice stadium”. Don’t blow smoke up our asses about development. Olave came in 2018 with National 73 Kamryn Babb and National 323 Cameron Brown.

    2019 the hit with Garret Wilson but lose Jameson Williams

    2020- Julian Fleming is the crown jewel. Injuries have hampered his development. Jaxon Njigba-Smith was underperforming until his Rose Bowl. Gee Scott Jr has done nothing.

    2021- Emeka they hit Gold with Egbuka but Platinum with Harrison Jr. We will see how Jayden Ballard does.

    To me I admire Hartline’s evaluation, he’s been able to find underrated 3 and 4 star gems that produce and offset some of the lack of production coming from higher rated kids


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  • TXDawgTXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 834 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Canadawg said:

    It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.

    I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.

    OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.

    I also don't buy that a lot of money is being thrown at high school recruits, with maybe a handful of exceptions. Seems like schools realize that the NIL dollar goes a lot further in enticing transfers or getting draft-eligible players to stay another year. The ROI is a lot better on proven vets instead of undeveloped high schoolers who have a much higher chance of busting.
    There'll be a lot of early NIL money spent of HS player who end up busting, but that money will dry up. Transfers are the most cost effective NIL money to spend right now, but that'll change with time.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    WilburHooksHands said:

    I was first and right. As i said after the kienholz interview, it was so fucking weird and he clearly had the vibe of being told to say it.

    Why'd you make me do this, Wilbs, why?
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  • HHBruhHHBruh Member Posts: 505
    Hartline making $950,000 according to elevenwarriors.com
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,080 Founders Club
    HHBruh said:

    Hartline making $950,000 according to elevenwarriors.com

    The DC makes 2 million at tOSU

    Hartline is better
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  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,735
    WilburHooksHands said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Canadawg said:

    It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.

    I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.

    OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.

    There is actually a lot of truth to this

    If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard
    looks like oregon didn’t pay attention
    You guys think Oregon has a lot more NIL money than Oregon actually has.

    How many pwestons contributing $5/month to ducks rising do you think there actually are?
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  • DawgDaze71DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    Trying to decipher the labrynth of NIL is like trying to understand hundreds of commision structures. It's easy to say "I got offered more money by x university" they may have had a higher NIL payout but harder incentive clauses.

    With regard to the Blue Bloods they don't really develop that's that fantasy. What they do is hire the best Co-ordinators and they sift through the Elite talent and surface the kids that want to run the scheme. Like all Teacher/Pupil relationships the Teacher creates the framework and the pupil must put in the work.

    Grubb didn't get two raises this last season because he has a proven UW history of development. He is refreshingly clear about expecations. He knows his system works and if the player does what is necessary to see the field they'll have success. 11-2 is a strong testament to the process.
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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,004 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    WilburHooksHands said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Canadawg said:

    It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.

    I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.

    OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.

    There is actually a lot of truth to this

    If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard
    looks like oregon didn’t pay attention
    You guys think Oregon has a lot more NIL money than Oregon actually has.

    How many pwestons contributing $5/month to ducks rising do you think there actually are?
    To be fair, $5/mo is a lot if you are pumping gas for a living.

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