Player dying the field in Cincinnati
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Essentially, this is a database review which is a common form of surveillance to try to identify correlation between exposure and outcome. It doesn't appear to be more than identifying a statistic that an event happened (cardiac arrest) in an athlete (source population) given the vaccine (exposure). There would need to be control for confounding variables (race, age, gender, what sport they played, how long they played, etc.) to isolate how strong the outcome is correlated to the exposure. If the paper were more about reviewing the cases and determining whether a case was legitimately cardiac arrest or some other major cardiac event, then the cardiologist would be a much better fit.Bob_C said:
In theory, wouldn't a cardiologist be a better source of understanding and identifying side effects that effect the heart than an epidemiologist?whatshouldicareabout said:
They should've been asked and accounted for in the trials. And if people have questions or concerns, then they need to be addressed.pawz said:
Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?whatshouldicareabout said:
Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".EsophagealFeces said:
Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.Dude61 said:
Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?
What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?
What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
No need to answer.
The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.
In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).
I really hope this helps.
I don't like that Pfizer wants to withhold answers either, but it's how pharma operates and it leads to distrust of medicine in the population.
I don't care if McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country, these are basic questions in epidemiology and biostatistics. How do you do a cohort analysis when the two source populations are different?
To me, one suggestion I have with the data he presented is that the demographics in the US changed such that there's going to be more background cases of cardiac arrest. It seems to occur more often in blacks and in soccer than say whites and baseball, and I'd wager that the percentage of blacks and soccer has grown since the 1960s to the 2020s. That said, there could be excess cardiac events because of the virus or the vaccine, but it's uncertain with how the data was presented in that letter. -
It's starting to look that way, for sure, as the spike in SADS deaths continues.WestlinnDuck said:
The chicom crud or the mRNA vaxxes? Seems pretty clear that the vaxxes are a much higher risk to young people than the Wuhan flu.TurdBomber said:
Been following this stuff closely since 2020. Recent studies are showing Covid-related Myocarditis is much rarer than previously thought and presented in the media.LawDawg1 said:As stated in another post.... how does the argument ignore the fact COVID19 has shown to also increase heart inflammation and myocarditis? Unless you can establish that an athlete (1) had the Vaxx and (2) never had COVID19, these studies or data points are meaningless. Was it the vaxx? Was it prior exposure to COVID? Was it something else? I hate the pro and anti-vaxxers.... but these arguments lack logic.
Not conclusive, but trending away from Covid19 as a major cause of Myocarditis in young people.
The issue for me at this point, and many doctors who care, is to stop the arguing over the cause, and transition to accepting that it's a real and big problem and start screening and treating for myocarditis in young people under 40 who got vaccinated.
Fuck people! Even the WHO acknowledges the Vax is causing Myocarditis. Major, major flip-flop on the issue, proving they can't deny it any more.
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Wait, you look at these numbers and come to the conclusion that it wasn't a "death sentence" but just the flu? Q for sure.TurdBomber said:
About 2 years ago, as I recall, I posted the spreadsheets showing King County cases and deaths. When I realized only 3 people in my Zip Code had died of Covid during a 9 month period, and 2 were in their 80s, I began to question the panic, the masks, the fear, and the absurdity of the county's Covid response.Bob_C said:From your King County overlords. Regardless if this is vaccine related or not, pushing it on young people was fucking stupid. In theory, unlimited risk with no reward.
It didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now.
Was a 1% death rate - if you caught the Vid (.03 overall) ever worth what our government put us through? And how effective was our collective response?
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For almost 2 years every normal death was a Covid death. Colds and the flu can trigger what?46XiJCAB said:I’ve never understood why vax believers become so defensive when confronted with the fact that many of the things their overlords told them about COVID and what needed to be done in the name of science turned out to be BS.
Denial?
Embarrassment?
Stupidity?
Herd mentality?I
Pride?
Virtue?
Blissful ignorance?
All of the above.
Hail Lord Fauci! How many people got angry with you for questioning the severity of the virus, the effectiveness or need for the vaccine or the crushing blow the lockdowns forced uopn the economy? How many of these same people believe the BS coming out of Brandon's mouth today about reducing the deficit after raising it to levels causing record inflation? Now, if death is questioned, all death is back to normal and has nothing to do with vaccines. These people have to believe because government is their god and salvation. -
I'm cutting slack and giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone who got vaxxed. Many had no choice, or were pushed into it by wives, parents, kids, other parents, etc. Weighing the risks and benefits wasn't easy with so much tension in the air, and all the misinformation/disinformation bullshit flying around. It was truly hard to navigate through it all and reach a confident, best case scenario for many thoughtful reasonable people, so I'm not angry or resentful or all that critical toward anyone who said, "fuck it" and got the jab.RoadTrip said:
For almost 2 years every normal death was a Covid death. Colds and the flu can trigger what?46XiJCAB said:I’ve never understood why vax believers become so defensive when confronted with the fact that many of the things their overlords told them about COVID and what needed to be done in the name of science turned out to be BS.
Denial?
Embarrassment?
Stupidity?
Herd mentality?I
Pride?
Virtue?
Blissful ignorance?
All of the above.
Hail Lord Fauci! How many people got angry with you for questioning the severity of the virus, the effectiveness or need for the vaccine or the crushing blow the lockdowns forced uopn the economy? How many of these same people believe the BS coming out of Brandon's mouth today about reducing the deficit after raising it to levels causing record inflation? Now, if death is questioned, all death is back to normal and has nothing to do with vaccines. These people have to believe because government is their god and salvation.
Unless you were a fucking prick about it, like many on these boreds were, throughout. You mother fuckers can go fuck your morally superior selves and kiss my ass when you're done. You voluntarily and shamelessly engaged in a massive fraud upon your fellow citizens and would, I believe, be the first to hold the railcar doors open and load your fellow citizens onto the trains.
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This argument I’ve never understood…if the excuse is that Covid also causes it, then giving people a vaccine that a) floods their body with high levels of the spike protein that is the likely source of the medical issues and b) doesn’t prevent Covid, so that when you do get Covid your body which is already dosed with spike protein from the vaccine suddenly gets a bunch more. I’m sure if they ever lined up vaccine data with Covid tests they’d find a huge overlap (Davies from Canada/Bayern Munich is the best example but most of that data is secretive and not available to the public).LawDawg1 said:As stated in another post.... how does the argument ignore the fact COVID19 has shown to also increase heart inflammation and myocarditis? Unless you can establish that an athlete (1) had the Vaxx and (2) never had COVID19, these studies or data points are meaningless. Was it the vaxx? Was it prior exposure to COVID? Was it something else? I hate the pro and anti-vaxxers.... but these arguments lack logic.
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@hhusky said getting super immunity was the way to go.HoustonHusky said:
This argument I’ve never understood…if the excuse is that Covid also causes it, then giving people a vaccine that a) floods their body with high levels of the spike protein that is the likely source of the medical issues and b) doesn’t prevent Covid, so that when you do get Covid your body which is already dosed with spike protein from the vaccine suddenly gets a bunch more. I’m sure if they ever lined up vaccine data with Covid tests they’d find a huge overlap (Davies from Canada/Bayern Munich is the best example but most of that data is secretive and not available to the public).LawDawg1 said:As stated in another post.... how does the argument ignore the fact COVID19 has shown to also increase heart inflammation and myocarditis? Unless you can establish that an athlete (1) had the Vaxx and (2) never had COVID19, these studies or data points are meaningless. Was it the vaxx? Was it prior exposure to COVID? Was it something else? I hate the pro and anti-vaxxers.... but these arguments lack logic.
Also why it’s especially FS to take the vaccine if you’ve already had Covid.
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Confirmation Bias. Or Not.
Fuck off.
Get well—LIVE—Demar!
May surprise many I am a man of faith. A flawed fucker, no doubt. But praying for Brother Demar and his family. Get well, young man -
Here was an interesting discussion between 2 doctors on the subject of Comotio Cordis and how the hockey player who suffered something similar was mis-diagnosed.
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Saw this earlier. Also reports of Hamlin coding a second time en route to the ER or at the ER. Hard to find mention of it anywhere in the MSM. Probably because it would demolish the Comotio Cardis theory and put it back in the lap of vaccine caused Myocarditis.RoadTrip said:Here was an interesting discussion between 2 doctors on the subject of Comotio Cordis and how the hockey player who suffered something similar was mis-diagnosed.
Unless they find another cause, such as Martian particle lasers.
Literally anything BUT the vaccines.
